$60 multi at Paradise

[SoCalPat]

From memory, didn't get the hand history.

Blinds are at 15/30 and I've got about 1,800 in chips.

I'm UTG with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and limp. MP+1 raises for 200, and I'm immediately suspicious of such a large raise. If you've got a real monster, why drive everyone out? I could understand a reraise of that size, but it's my experience that a raise like this is AK or AQ. Maybe TT. Folded to me, and I call.

Flop comes 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What's your play? I've got Villian covered by about 400 chips or so. I know very little about him, given how early we are in the tournament, but he's done nothing to call any amount of attention toward himself.

[betgo]

Fold preflop. Suspicious or not, what is the point of contesting this. Let him steal the 75 chip pot. Maybe look to trap him later.

On the flop, I would play for a checkraise allin.

The following shows how you stand versus overcards or an overpair. It is somewhat worse if villain has a club.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1647588
pokenum -h 8d 8c - as ks -- 6c 7h 9c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 9c 6c 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8c 8d 798 80.61 176 17.78 16 1.62 0.814
As Ks 176 17.78 798 80.61 16 1.62 0.186

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1647589
pokenum -h 8d 8c - as ah -- 6c 7h 9c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 9c 6c 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8c 8d 402 40.61 572 57.78 16 1.62 0.414
As Ah 572 57.78 402 40.61 16 1.62 0.586

[golfinguy5]

I agree with betgo on this one. Fold preflop after that large raise. The flop is a pretty good one for you and I like the checkraise here. If he makes a C-Bet you can push here and hope to take it down. If he calls with overs your a favorite and if he has an overpair you have plenty of outs.

[SoCalPat]

I was afraid this would be the response I would get, because in hindsight, I might've taken it down with a flop C/R.

Without the additional outs, I would've check-folded this hand. But I was pretty sure of my read, so I pushed.

Villian thinks long and hard and calls ... with AKo.

Of course, he turns his K, but it's a club, giving me 17 outs to improve on the river (he's not holding a club). And of course, a brick falls putting me close to the felt.

I make a nice recovery and get back to 2,100 before another critical hand sends me to the rail. I'll post that one later.

I'd like to think had he made a modest CB, I could've moved him off the pot with a C/R. But if he's putting me on top pair or a draw, he's probably going to call me anyway if he's willing to call as it actually happened.

[Foucault]

Why are you trying to get him to fold AK?

[SoCalPat]

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Why are you trying to get him to fold AK?

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Good question. I suppose that since I'm a 3-1 favorite here, I should encourage him to stay in the hand. Perhaps I'm not confident enough in my own play to make the right decision on the turn/river should paint fall, and I'd like to settle the whole thing right then and there.

[betgo]

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Why are you trying to get him to fold AK?

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Good question. I suppose that since I'm a 3-1 favorite here, I should encourage him to stay in the hand. Perhaps I'm not confident enough in my own play to make the right decision on the turn/river should paint fall, and I'd like to settle the whole thing right then and there.

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You are not a 3-1 favorite over AK. You are a 4-1 favorite with the straight draw.