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Old 04-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Dromar Dromar is offline
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Default Re: A Big Laydown

Kurn, son of Mogh makes two good points above. The first one is about 100 times as important as the second. If you get anything out of this, let it be that you should never play underrolled, and especially not with all your money on one table.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:05 AM
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i just made a really big laydown online

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I am playing in .25/.50 6 handed

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Stop it!!!! Just stop it!!!!!!!!! You're driving me insane!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:11 AM
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I have a feeling he is strong so i just call with QQ

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You have a "feeling" he has specifically AA or KK???? You can't fold on a typical J-high or lower flop, so you might as well get a raise in PF. You saved money on a fluke in this hand. TJQ is an impossible flop. Raise pre-flop to charge Ax unless there's a read-dependent situation you can exploit.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:14 AM
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I have about $24 at the start of the hand

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it was my entire online bankroll at the time

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Would you just f**king stop it?!?!?!?!. Get out of my mental conciousness!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!! Just stop tormenting me!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:55 AM
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There actually is somebody with the handle: ConsciousOne on my buddylist... it all makes sense now.
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:43 AM
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Haven't read others yet.

If you think he has AA or KK you should fold preflop. If you htink he has ANYTHING else than you should raise it. Your logic preflop make Zero sense!

That was a very bad flop. Sure top set is good but that flop brings way too much baggage. I push the flop. I'm not dumping top set here and still have outs if someone flopped a straight on me.

You have $15 left and lets say the original raiser goes all in for $20. That means there is $52 in the pot and it costs you $15 or 3.6-1. Odds on filling up by river is 2-1. Terrible fold. Don't be result oriented!

[/ QUOTE ]if I can narrow villain's hand range to KK and AA that's when I call faster.
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Old 04-04-2006, 06:19 AM
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Thanks Kurn, son of Mogh, and the others who gave good advice on this hand. I do now understand how poor the play was.
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