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Old 04-03-2006, 07:41 PM
Perseus Perseus is offline
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

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I just got knocked up to gold so this would be a walk in the park if I could log on.

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Me three.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:43 PM
treo650 treo650 is offline
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

Maybe they *did* do upgrades during off-peak hours, but
the bugs/problems only come out when they
experience a larger number of transactions/users.

Also, maybe they *are* throwing
$1 million at this problem? But they are simply
growing too fast to keep up with themselves.
Even if you throw all this money at the problem, it
still takes time/risk to integrate it into the
existing system.

Plus, it's not just programming the client
software, but remember they have to program
the server-side. AND make it robust, secure,
and be able to handle thousands (millions?)
of actions per second -- quickly and accurately.
That is far from a simple task. Anyone can develop
a poker-client PROGRAM, but it's a LOT tougher to make it
a real-world SYSTEM that scales.

In addition, it's not just the software, but the hardware:
they need big horking servers on the backend to handle
all this stuff. And electricity. And network. And
air-conditioning. And support staff.
With redundancy, for hardware and staff.
They also probably have some load-balancing
traffic-directing servers in the front-end, so
that's even more hardware.
Then they have to keep up with OS & firmware updates,
security patches and upgrades for all those devices.
All these become points of failure in a extremely
complex system. Everything is dependent on everything
else, while working together, and expected to
survive peak usage spikes without skipping a beat.
Good Luck! You think 20-tabling 6-max is tough? BAH!

On top of all that, the programmers and sys-admins
are probably pressured by management to have zero
downtime for maintenance/upgrades because they are
losing $200K per hour, which only adds to the
potential to screw up.

Then the marketing department decides to surprise
everyone with a new promo and the PP IT dept has
to juggle this along with everything
else on their plate.

This is all conjecture but I'm guessing PP is
experiencing what a lot of companies experienced
during the dot-com days, except on an exponential
scale. So even the most talented workers
might have a tough time keeping up.

Then again, during the dot-com days there were
a lot of incompetent fools running businesses.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:54 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

wtf, is that some kind of poem?
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:23 PM
Simplistic Simplistic is offline
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

I love all the E-CEOs in this thread. "why doesn't party just spend more money to solve these problems duh"

everyone bashes party because they appear to be inept, incompetent losers. but they wouldn't have gotten this far nor would they be no.1 if they weren't doing some things right.

some problems aren't as easy as simply throwing money at it.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:30 PM
USCSigma1097 USCSigma1097 is offline
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

Simplistic,

I wasn't bashing Party. I don't have the foggiest idea of what it takes to run their operation. One of the posters made some good points about what it takes to run an internet gambling operation on that grand of scale.

However, many of the other posters have pointed out that Stars doesn't seem to have the connectivity issues of Party.

I own a construction company, so I am of the mindset that if it something is broken, you take it apart and rebuild it until it works.

I just don't suppose that is possible in this case.

Sigma
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

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Maybe they should try wrapping their turbans around the servers so sand doesn't get in them and cause them to crash.


<font color="white"> kidding, kidding, for the PC retarded crowd </font>

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LOL I'm guessing they lose somewhere between 100 to 200 thousand per hour during primetime playing hours if u take the 600 million profits they made last year and divide them by 365 and so forth.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

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I love all the E-CEOs in this thread. "why doesn't party just spend more money to solve these problems duh"

everyone bashes party because they appear to be inept, incompetent losers. but they wouldn't have gotten this far nor would they be no.1 if they weren't doing some things right.

some problems aren't as easy as simply throwing money at it.

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This kind of [censored] up or worse happens like every week. If it's not the serves crashing for hours, they're lying to there VIP's, having promotions that are unintelligible, or making absurdly stupid replies to it's costumers.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

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How do you know this downtime isnt because of a system upgrade?

Adding a new 100 gigabit switching server isn't a "flip of a switch" task.

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At peak hours.....wait this is party.....its what?? 6am there? Those aren't peak hours!!
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:52 PM
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Then again, during the dot-com days there were
a lot of incompetent fools running businesses.

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BINGO
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: How much money does party lose/hour?

Hmmm, have we worked together somewhere before.
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