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Old 05-14-2007, 06:47 PM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default Re: bet the rock on the river with one pair?

How in the world is this old guy supposed to have a 7 here?
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: bet the rock on the river with one pair?

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Old 05-15-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: bet the rock on the river with one pair?

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How in the world is this old guy supposed to have a 7 here?

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Ok, maybe I spoke too soon when I put him on a 7. He could have a couple of hands but I'd be very surprised if hero is good here and drawing to more than 2 outs
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: bet the rock on the river with one pair?

If he's a rock type player, you can read all his lines one by one and they mean exactly what they are supposed to mean.

Preflop = i have a very good hand and i don't mind raising with. So there is no 7 in this hand for sure!!!

Flop = i don't want to fold cause i still have a good hand but i want to see the other limper if they have a 7.

Turn = you don't have a 7 and the BB doesn't either cause no check-raise, so my hand is good (here you're dead against JJ and JJ only, IMO there is no hands he can have except this one that you are behind)

river = the flush came an i don't beat a flush, so he doesn't have JJ, what can he have? AA, KK, QQ so you have to know that your hand is good against the rock. And because the flush was runner-runner, don't think the BB has it so for me, it's a clear bet here on the river.

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Old 05-15-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: bet the rock on the river with one pair?

If by slim chance your hand is good against the EP raiser on the turn... which I think it is unless he has exactly J-J... why are you just calling the turn here? I can think of no combos where if your "rock" read are correct, that the EP could have a 7. You need to improve your chances that your hand is best? I think the raise gets the BB out with his pair st8 draw type hands.

I think you need to raise the turn and see what happens...

Betting the river here is dangerous, but I would most likely bet the river for value here. The BB has done nothing to indicate that he has a hand and now the EP has given up seemingly indicating that you have emanated enough strength via calling to indicate he is beat.

In conclusion: I think you need to raise turn, and bet the end for value.
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