50/100 hand against mahatma at UB

[Nezzar]

When hero calls 1700 on the turn what does mahatma think hero has?..
AK would be likely here i think. Maybe K-Q, K-J (or weaker), but isn´t better to make a reraise on turn in that case as to define his strenght (if mahatma calls hero is obviusly beat and can fold no matter what mahatma bets on the river but can get a check from tp or ak) and prevent mahatma from valuebetting the river and thus get a cheaper showdown? With A-K hero can call turn with the idea of calling a pottsize bet, raising a small bet (for value) or valuebetting a check on the river.

I assume mahatma knows this..

The other hands mahatma considers is K-10 and 10-10
If hero made a set of tens, then there is likely a raise on the turn from hero. (Or if mahatma makes these allin plays on river often a call would be better, but then the call on the river with ak would also be auotomatic. I´m assuming mahatma doesnt make the plays often enough).
Anyway these hands are far more less likely than A-K, K-Q, K-J. (And if mahatma holds Q-J it´s more likely for him to believe hero holds A-K)

I think ther´s a good chance mahatma interprets the turn call as A-K and with that in mind it´s hard to pull a big bluff. Is he capable of bluffing though he suspects u have A-K?

Conclusion: Mahatma has Q-J making a straight

[shaniac]

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it must be cool being a "he could have anything guy". but sadly, I'm afraid to try out his style at fear of losing money. I wish there were a more text book approach to learning the style.

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I'm not a cash-game NL expert, but folding top-2 to a player known for his proclivity to overbet a wide variety of hands seems to be a huge mistake to me. If people regularly fold AK to Mahatma in this spot, I'm beginning to understand why he's so succesful. I liked it that you suggested insta-call, since I expect posters on this forum to say "fold" as often as "call" and the latter makes more sense to me.

[KaneKungFu123]

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[shaniac]

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Good point. In fact, why even play AK in the first place?

[shaniac]

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Conclusion: Mahatma has Q-J making a straight

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I've never seen such a simple conclusion derive from such a convoluted analysis (culminating here: "Anyway these hands are far more less likely than A-K, K-Q, K-J. (And if mahatma holds Q-J it´s more likely for him to believe hero holds A-K)"

You're assuming a whole bunch of stuff about what's going on in Mahatma's mind and how he perceives your play, when all you need to concentrate on is this: You're against a guy who just made an allin-overbet into a pot where you hold top-2 pair. Your opponent is well known to push a wide variety of hands here, many of which are not the nuts and dont have you beat. I really don't understand how people can advocate a fold here.

[savman]

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Good point. In fact, why even play AK in the first place?

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lmao, no way on earth am i folding this to him. as an aside, there may be a reason i am not playing in that game. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[fimbulwinter]

i would fold the river without thinking about it much.

fim

[shaniac]

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i would fold the river without thinking about it much.

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Can you explain to me why that doesn't constitute textbook weak-tight play?

[KaneKungFu123]

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Good point. In fact, why even play AK in the first place?

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lmao, no way on earth am i folding this to him. as an aside, there may be a reason i am not playing in that game. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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you guys dont get it.

he is not value betting.

he is either bluffing and has dick... or he has the nuts.

on this board, he has the nuts more often then not.

[shaniac]

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he is either bluffing and has dick... or he has the nuts.

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So he never has KT, K3, K5, A3, A5, and AT (etc) in addition to the times he's bluffing? If I knew many of my opponents would fold AK to my allin, I'd be pushing those hands as well as many 1-pair hands in Mahatma's seat.

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on this board, he has the nuts more often then not.

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What is it about this board that makes the nuts more likely? I'm not disareeing with you necessarily, I'm just curious why you make the claim.