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Old 07-10-2007, 07:23 AM
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NL players also often tend to rely on their "reads" and often disregard the pot odds they are getting. This leads them to make bad folds fairly often.

And don't get me started on river value betting...

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yeah..lol on those nl dooodz who try to think through hands. dont they know your just supposed to spew chips pre flop/flop and bloat the pot so big that you then get to call call down for " the size of the pot". showdowns r fun!

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LHE is pain. 75% of the time you are losing in this spot, but since you only needed to be right 20% of the time you did the right thing calling down. As an NL player it is perhaps too tough on the ego to lose this often?! So you cling to the word "read", claiming we don't do this while in reality you may just be forgetting/leaving out factors that are important in the equation (including stone cold bluffs, 44-66, badly played overpairs/top pairs, the chance of cathing up/counterfeiting two pairs, etc). Even bad players at these limits know that aggression is key in LHE. Some take that concept too far and it should be a factor to be considered.

Yes, LHE can sometimes seem like a singleminded and not very complex game at times, especially on the late streets (AA needs to see a showdown always on boards like this). On the other hand, the situation that comes up all the time in LHE: steal raiser vs. big blind's any two seems much more interesting than the same situation in NL where big blind needs to be dumping a lot of hands - even in situations where he is often ahead.
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