Marginal Value Bet

HighSteaks · #1 08-31-2006, 09:12 AM

Without a PFR from this guy I found it hard to put him on anything other than a rough Ace and was concerned only holding a two myself - but I am still wondering if I should have bet this river.

PokerRoom 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds.

River: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

jrz1972 · #2 08-31-2006, 09:15 AM

Bet. Not close.

Absolution · #3 08-31-2006, 09:59 AM

Because he has A3 and will call for a chop?

jrz1972 · #4 08-31-2006, 10:08 AM

No, I'm betting because if he's come this far, he'll call with any pair.

Sometimes he'll have a bigger ace and I'll find that I've been betting his hand for him the whole way, but if that never happens, you're not value-betting enough.

xJames2112 · #5 08-31-2006, 10:11 AM

I would be betting here. It would be easier with some reads but you would think he would have bet the flop if he had an ace.

MrWookie · #6 08-31-2006, 10:21 AM

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Bet. Not close.

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HighSteaks · #7 08-31-2006, 07:59 PM

Little wonder this game is confusing -

PokerRoom 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds.

River: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has Qd Qh (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ad 2d (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 7 BB.

KeysrSoze · #8 08-31-2006, 08:15 PM

x out marginal and you got it