Common Flop Situation, monotone flop

[Rubeskies]

Opponent is TAGish.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>

I often fold here but sometimes call and I really don't know why.

[cartman]

I would fold immediately.

[Rubeskies]

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I would fold immediately.

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What about Againt a 40/20 LAG?

[cartman]

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I would fold immediately.

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What about Againt a 40/20 LAG?

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I think the furthest I would go vs a nonmaniac would be to call the flop and fold unimproved on the turn. But honestly I wouldn't be surprised if folding immediately isn't best vs the LAG also.

[Dane S]

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I would fold immediately.

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What about Againt a 40/20 LAG?

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Against the tag I think flop's a clear fold. With a LAG I'm fine with calling down sans a club.

[The Bryce]

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I would fold immediately.

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What about Againt a 40/20 LAG?

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Against the tag I think flop's a clear fold. With a LAG I'm fine with calling down sans a club.

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I would expect the LAG to have a pair here more often than the TAG.

[Dane S]

Yeah, so? He'll also have a lone club a lot more often.

[The Bryce]

... no he wont. Not % wise, anyways. Either archetype is going to pop you with any club, but there are more 6's, 4's and 2's in a loose players range (TAGs typically underdefend in this spot). Also, a TAG (if by TAG we mean decent player) may not raise all his pair / pair + club combinations here, realizing that there's very little point in getting money in against a 12-15 outer on the flop when he sometimes won't have the best hand and there are very few worse hands he can charge.

[Dane S]

Right and there are more clubs in a loose player's range as well...more hands = more clubs right? I also don't think a decent player is auto raising a lone club on this flop though a lag probably is.

[wackjob]

I often check behind here on the flop.