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#12
05-16-2006, 12:09 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
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@ Dyson FWIW, I would bet a flush draw here if I had c/r it (maybe not A9s but AT and AJs. I also am probably not c/ring a flush draw 3-way. [/ QUOTE ] does he watch you play online poker or what? honestly unless he is your brother, this doesnt make a difference - he's going to put you on spades if you check the turn. 
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#14
05-16-2006, 12:12 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
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[ QUOTE ] @ Dyson FWIW, I would bet a flush draw here if I had c/r it (maybe not A9s but AT and AJs. I also am probably not c/ring a flush draw 3-way. [/ QUOTE ] does he watch you play online poker or what? honestly unless he is your brother, this doesnt make a difference - he's going to put you on spades if you check the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Probably play 5000 hands a week with him. I disagree here strongly, I don't think that he would put me on spades at all. I think my hand to him is more like TT which he wouldn't expect to call a turn bet. True
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#15
05-16-2006, 12:17 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
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For what it is worth, these are just my thoughts and may or may not be correct. I would think that villain perceives me to be a very strong player. True [/ QUOTE ] This isn't BBV. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#16
05-16-2006, 12:18 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
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[ QUOTE ] For what it is worth, these are just my thoughts and may or may not be correct. I would think that villain perceives me to be a very strong player. True [/ QUOTE ] This isn't BBV. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It is quite important to the hand, no need to make a comment like this. True
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#17
05-16-2006, 12:21 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
you play 5k hands a week with him and you dont tell us anything about how often he would 3bet the flop with AA or AK?
so in this hand, you check raised Kxx flop with AK planning to check fold a Q turn. he auto folds AoQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the flop? (you say if you check the turn you have TT to him so he must think you can c/r light on Kxx flops). honestly dude, no. you're not folding this hand. especially not check folding it on the turn.
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#18
05-16-2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
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you play 5k hands a week with him and you dont tell us anything about how often he would 3bet the flop with AA or AK? so in this hand, you check raised Kxx flop with AK planning to check fold a Q turn. he auto folds AoQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the flop? (you say if you check the turn you have TT to him so he must think you can c/r light on Kxx flops). honestly dude, no. you're not folding this hand. especially not check folding it on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I think if he calls AQs on this flop after I c/r him+caller then he is a bad player. True
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#19
05-16-2006, 12:35 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
How often is he betting worse hands? I don't get your logic about his 3-betting range. The only hands you are behind in his 3bet range are QQ-AA, and KQ. You're ahead of lots others. What if he has AQ? Will he bet the turn, thinking you have 10-10 or JJ? I don't understand check-folding this turn at all. I bet the turn, and am actually torn between 3 betting or calling down if raised.
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#20
05-16-2006, 12:36 PM
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Re: AK interesting turn
it doesnt add up.
why would he call QQ/JJ/TT on the flop if you dont check raise flush draws 3-way like this? what about the turn Q makes it a fold for him with JJ/TT? 1. it doesnt change your hand. 2. you dont check raise flush draws. so pretty much, he doesnt have odds to call the flop c/r w/ two outs. and if he's correct in calling down an underpair, peeling with AoQs cant be that bad in a pot this big. i dont really know what else to say other than what ive already said. dont cf the turn. btw i bet you didnt check fold (no offense True, but you're famous for your, "i took a monster to showdown but i should have made some crazy fold because i lost" posts).
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