AK interesting turn
 

Hero raises A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG, 2 folds, strong 24/14/1.6 button 3-bets, 40/15.1/1.6 calls in SB, BB folds.

Flop - K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds

Turn - Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero.....

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Re: AK interesting turn
 

He wouldn't of 3 bet with KQ, QQ-99 most likely seeing as he looked sheepish on the flop.

AK split maybe but I would bet here then call down if he raises.

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I advocate check/folding as the best line here.

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thats prolly best line, but i cannot lay down this so i check call down.

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thats prolly best line, but i cannot lay down this so i check call down.

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I think bet/folding is the second best line. The reason for this is that when you check, he will bet all the hands that beat you but check behind the ones that don't. I think betting is clearly better than check/folding because he may SOMETIMES (not frequently enough for bet/folding to be better than check/folding) call down with a worse hand. I think his action on this turn however is seldom call, so that is why I believe this line to have no merit.

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Really? I think its way too likely that we're throwing away the best hand here. alot of TAGs would play 66-JJ like this. So i think its a bet/call-down scenario. Folding winners = ultimate suck.

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I don't know, I'm confused. I'd b/c if I were actually playing, but I don't know if that's right.

I think he's very capable of 3-betting KQ preflop here. I doubt a king weaker than that is 3-betting preflop though. So if you're up against a king, you're probably either behind or chopping.

If you're up against something like JJ-99, then checking and giving him a free card with 2 outs is about .65 big bets. Worth it if he'd fold the turn but call a river bet because of the weakness you showed by checking the turn.

I'm not too scared of a flush draw, since both the ace and king of spades are out.

So maybe c/c the turn and donk the river? Man, that's probably awful advice, but this seems like a WA/WB situation. KQ has you drawing to 3 outs. If you're ahead, you most likely have him drawing to 2 outs or less (Qx is fairly unlikely I think). Pot's getting big, but not big enough that giving somebody a free card to 2 outs is a disaster if it makes them willing to put another bet in on the river.

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I advocate check/folding as the best line here.

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Really? I think its way too likely that we're throwing away the best hand here. alot of TAGs would play 66-JJ like this. So i think its a bet/call-down scenario. Folding winners = ultimate suck.

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I think bet/call down is the worst line. In my opinion his pfr range to 3-bet my UTG raise is likely 99 TT JJ QQ KK AA, AK, AKs, AQ, AQs, AJs, KQs.

n.b. I dont have a 13% pfr so it may be even tighter than this.

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if he can have QQ he can have JJ and TT.

if you check here you have A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

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@ Nschandler :

If I check the turn and he checks, then I will donk the river. However I still believe folding to be better than calling the turn when we check.

IF he has AK I believe he would 3-bet the flop, so I think "if he has a K we are behind".

@ Dyson
FWIW, I would bet a flush draw here if I had c/r it (maybe not A9s but AT and AJs. I also am probably not c/ring a flush draw 3-way.

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