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View Poll Results: How many tables do you currently play at once?
1 2 3.51%
2 8 14.04%
3 7 12.28%
4 19 33.33%
5-6 9 15.79%
7-8 7 12.28%
>8 5 8.77%
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

When you have a hnad you believe is best on the river and want to put your opponent all-in do you do anything special with the bet size?

As an example,

Pot is $10 going to the river.
Opponent has $4.57 remaining.
You have $14.47 left.

Opponent has called pot sized bet on flop, 2/3 pot on turn. You suspect he has top pair with a decent kicker, you have an overpair AA. You want to get him all-in.

What would you typically bet? I know the question may seem ridiculous as we are putting him in all-in regardless, but is there any psychological effect of our bet size on his chance to call?
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

I've always shoved, but this is a great question.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

I usually just use the slider.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

Where's the $4.58 option????
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

Only so many options I can give. I would lump $4.58 with $4.57. Both are intentional manually typed amounts trying to put pressure on opponent.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

I usually put in exactly his stack. Never considered it in detail though.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

i round up, so in this case id just go 5
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Richard Tanner Richard Tanner is offline
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

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i round up, so in this case id just go 5

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Wow, this really is a great OP. This, by the way, is the correct answer. In my experience, betting his exact stack projects an image, not of weakness, but of stregth. It's almost as if you know you've got him and want to make sure you get his money.
Rounding up however, seems to project the idea that you might be trying to buy it by betting a larger amount.
As for pushing, I think most newer player or awful players associate an "all-in" with a big hand, so that's less likely to be called.

Cody
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

When I am confident I have the best hand on the river and have my opponent covered, I will put him all-in by typing the exact amount he has left in his stack. This does a few things:

1. It makes him say, "This [censored] put me all-in, cocky [censored]! This sets you up later when you do it to him again and he decides to call with a 2nd best hand. It also works when he decides to take a 2nd best hand to the river and you just put in a decent sized value bet and he calls (because he's still pissed you put him all-in earlier LOL).

2. It really messes with some people. They just plain don't like it. It's very psychological. Villains think you're being a cocky SOB.

When you shove all-in or go all-in over the top of someone or they check the river and you bet 1/2, 2/3 of the pot they'll typically fold. They tend to believe they're beat. But when you put someone in for the exact amount of their stack, they tend to not like that. I know I don't. It's really psychological. This is just my opinion. I'm looking forward to what others have to say.

AC
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Putting opponent all-in on the river ...

I do the exact amount when I have some inclination that the villain thinks I might be on air, especially if they have folded to my turn or river bets in big pots in the past. It probably doesn't have a huge effect but it does annoy some people so why not. Otherwise I just round up to the next even number.
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