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Old 08-10-2007, 07:48 AM
AcesUp2121 AcesUp2121 is offline
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Default 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

200 6 max on Stars. Villain is unknown

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($247)
SB ($192)
BB ($289.75)
UTG ($269.15)
MP ($191)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) Q, T, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13, BB calls $13.

Turn: ($43) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32.

River: ($107) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $88, Hero?
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

fold. you beat nothing here. Only crappy Q's and maybe KJ, 89 and hands like AK, but would he do this with that since you got no reads that he likes to call down with crappy draws and bluff them on the river?
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

Fold.I hate this spot,sometimes i make bad calls here.Occasionally picking off some idiot,most of the time paying them off.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

Call. If villain plays solid, AQ is the only hand that beats you. KQ and QJ are possible. KJ as a bluff.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

fold. you've shown strength and I find it hard to believe villain thinks he can bluff here.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

Call... he check calls, then check calls, then leads on a 3???

This line is either a hand that was made on the river, or a missed draw. Sometimes it will be a slow played set, but it's not a very good line for that.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

i agree that with KQ this is a fold. what kind of range do we put villian on though. i see c/c, c/c, bet a lot, and i think getting a read on what kind of hands specific villians will do this with is very valuable. what do we do with AQ here? QT? set of fives (which i think is pretty close in value to QT here)?
also i think bet sizing here is very important. i often see this line but with a much smaller river bet and its usually complete air with a small bet.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river

Results: Villain miraculously shows up with A-4 off.
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