200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

200 6 max on Stars. Villain is unknown

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($247)
SB ($192)
BB ($289.75)
UTG ($269.15)
MP ($191)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13, BB calls $13.

Turn: ($43) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32.

River: ($107) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $88, Hero?

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

fold. you beat nothing here. Only crappy Q's and maybe KJ, 89 and hands like AK, but would he do this with that since you got no reads that he likes to call down with crappy draws and bluff them on the river?

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

Fold.I hate this spot,sometimes i make bad calls here.Occasionally picking off some idiot,most of the time paying them off.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

Call. If villain plays solid, AQ is the only hand that beats you. KQ and QJ are possible. KJ as a bluff.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

fold. you've shown strength and I find it hard to believe villain thinks he can bluff here.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

Call... he check calls, then check calls, then leads on a 3???

This line is either a hand that was made on the river, or a missed draw. Sometimes it will be a slow played set, but it's not a very good line for that.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

this is almost always a monster. fold.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

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this is almost always a monster. fold.

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It's a monster or a missed draw... if he is quickly check/calling flop and turn, then it is almost always a missed draw.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

Tricky, you have to be good about 30% of the time to make a call correct. Another benefit of a call is that you get a better read on villain.

Hmz, I guess missed draws could do this, but it's only KJ and J9 here. Maybe QK and AQ to, and two pairs and sets. Uhh, I think it's close, but when I'm thinking about it a fold is probably best against an unknown. I would hate to fold though, and in the heat of the battle I probably call.

Re: 200 NL: Villain comes alive on river
 

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this is almost always a monster. fold.

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It's a monster or a missed draw... if he is quickly check/calling flop and turn, then it is almost always a missed draw.

[/ QUOTE ]this board has 1 straight draw on it and a possible backdoored FD to go along with it...not near drawy enough for me to snap off a near pot sized river lead with TPGK without a really good read.