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08-02-2007, 09:13 PM
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I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
I have sat with this AJs hand for a week and I am still unsure. I have had some pretty differing advice from good players so I guess it may be worth posting. The game is playing pretty typically with plenty of steal/restealing and nobody folding anything. I think we have a walker or two so it is 7 or 8 handed. I am fairly new in the game so detailed reads are absent but I do know that UTG is aggressive (likely overly so) and CO ssems to be a little too loose but not retarded.
UTG raises, folded to CO who calls 2 cold, SB folds and I call with AdJd. Flop: Qd9d9c. I check, UTG bets, CO calls, I call. Here is the initial decision. I sometimes CR here but have been told I play draws too passively at times and need to CR here almost always. I don't think I clean up outs and my equity 3 ways isn't that great with this board. Thoughts? Turn: 8d (Qd9d9c) I decide to donk out. UTG calls and now CO raises. my turn and I do what? I will stop the action here for now. Who prefers a checkraise here? 
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#2
08-02-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
Flop call is fine. Turn bet is great, now 3-bet.
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#3
08-02-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
i probably would have checkraised the flop, but i don't think it's TOO big of a deal. although i do believe checkraising is definitely better. failing a flop checkraise, i love a turn lead, since it usually gives you the chance to 3 bet.
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#4
08-02-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
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Flop call is fine. Turn bet is great, now 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] This pretty much sums up my thoughts. You can c/r flop if you want, contrary to popular belief it is okay to just c/c flop with an almost guaranteed equity edge because then that possibility cannot be ruled out on future hands. If they do rule out the possibility of you c/c here with a great flush draw then that's fine too, it may earn you a ton of action when you hit. I would c/r the flop but c/c is fine and I have done it many times. This is the absolute perfect turn donk card. I would have donked any flush, but this is just awesome because hopefully someone has JT. Things get quite exciting when the CO raises, because now JT is looking extremely likely. 3bet and procure his dollars. If CO 4bets after UTG folds then I would c/r river. BTW sit in 60/120 preflop.
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#5
08-02-2007, 11:06 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
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BTW sit in 60/120 preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure what this means. Are you saying I should stay out of the 1/2?
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#6
08-03-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
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[ QUOTE ] BTW sit in 60/120 preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure what this means. Are you saying I should stay out of the 1/2? [/ QUOTE ] No I meant that the people in the 60 are usually drooling on themselves and covered in their own feces while most of the people in the 1/2 have probably mastered the fine art of using toilet paper and the 60 is probably the better game to play quite often. However I am very lazy and like things handed to me on a silver platter, which means I don't like slaving away in the 1/2 and having to actually think.
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#8
08-03-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
I wish Commerce would drop all the 20 chips in the toilet and get rid of that fking game.....as a regular in the 1-2 I look over at the 60 (only been spreading (6-9 months) and see several of the old terrible regular 1-2 players sitting there and it ticks me off....that being said, the 1-2 game is still good and well worth playing most of the time.
Disclaimer: Most of this post is said with tongue firmly planted in cheek.
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#10
08-02-2007, 10:39 PM
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Re: I have sat with this AJs hand for a week.. Commerce1/2
Id 3 bet this because I dont think UTG is gonna call a raise with like KQ here except if he has say KdQx he will call 2 also most likely.......Im not worried about being behind as QQ, 99 seem impossible, 98 is combinatorically unlikely and would probably raise the flop, so he could have a worse flush, JT, various 9s, some other retardo [censored] way more than he has you beat, Id feel very very good about your hand and just look to get as much money as possible in on the turn.
Disclaimer: not a live player.
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