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Old 07-09-2007, 03:51 PM
jk3a jk3a is offline
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Default Jacks in a really tough spot.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $83.85
BB: $168.00
Hero (UTG): $480.90
MP: $65.00
CO: $193.25
BTN: $373.75

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 17/14/3 through 750 hands. No real significant history except a hand we played like minutes before this. I crai on the turn with the nut flush after calling a flop raise. Villain claims to have folded bottom set.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $35.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $23.00

Flop: ($75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $50.00</font>,
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

Fold preflop.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

lol
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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wtf
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:02 PM
tozzy tozzy is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

dude, srsly. you have a nit that 3bets your utg raise, you call and flop the overpair. then he cbets. if this puts you into a "tough spot", fold pf.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:07 PM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

wtf?

17/14 isn't nit
and fwiw, I'm pretty sure he's c-betting most of his range on the flop.

I think I call here and re-evaluate turn.
It kinda sux to fold turn with the huge pot,
but I think he's also shutting down after the flop.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:07 PM
ChimneyImp ChimneyImp is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

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If you call preflop, you think you're ahead. If you're ahead preflop, you're still way ahead on that flop. So, when you call preflop here, you should probably shove that flop. If you're not going to shove the best flop you can hope for, you should probably ship it preflop.

Also, what range is he reraising your UTG raise with? AA/KK/QQ/AK? So, at best you're flipping and at worst you're a significant dog. I definitely ship this before I see the flop.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:21 PM
DawnToDusk DawnToDusk is offline
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

Barf. Thats the weakest line in the world. Can vill not 3bet us here with AK/AJs+ type hands? I think he is capable. I think on the flop jk3a needs to consider what hands vill is capable of 3betting with PF. Dependent on that range he needs to shove or fold this flop.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.

I usually call a flop bet here and fold to further aggression.
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