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jk3a 07-09-2007 03:51 PM

Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $83.85
BB: $168.00
Hero (UTG): $480.90
MP: $65.00
CO: $193.25
BTN: $373.75

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 17/14/3 through 750 hands. No real significant history except a hand we played like minutes before this. I crai on the turn with the nut flush after calling a flop raise. Villain claims to have folded bottom set.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $35.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $23.00

Flop: ($75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $50.00</font>,

ChimneyImp 07-09-2007 03:58 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
Fold preflop.

GTBMuckface 07-09-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
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Fold preflop.

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viciouspenguin 07-09-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
lol

TheDivineRod 07-09-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
I usually call a flop bet here and fold to further aggression.

jk3a 07-09-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
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Fold preflop.

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wtf

tozzy 07-09-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
dude, srsly. you have a nit that 3bets your utg raise, you call and flop the overpair. then he cbets. if this puts you into a "tough spot", fold pf.

ChimneyImp 07-09-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
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wtf

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If you call preflop, you think you're ahead. If you're ahead preflop, you're still way ahead on that flop. So, when you call preflop here, you should probably shove that flop. If you're not going to shove the best flop you can hope for, you should probably ship it preflop.

Also, what range is he reraising your UTG raise with? AA/KK/QQ/AK? So, at best you're flipping and at worst you're a significant dog. I definitely ship this before I see the flop.

mdkrahn 07-09-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
wtf?

17/14 isn't nit
and fwiw, I'm pretty sure he's c-betting most of his range on the flop.

I think I call here and re-evaluate turn.
It kinda sux to fold turn with the huge pot,
but I think he's also shutting down after the flop.

ChimneyImp 07-09-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Jacks in a really tough spot.
 
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wtf?

17/14 isn't nit
and fwiw, I'm pretty sure he's c-betting most of his range on the flop.

I think I call here and re-evaluate turn.
It kinda sux to fold turn with the huge pot,
but I think he's also shutting down after the flop.

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If I was villian, I probably shove turn with all of my range after I build such a big pot.


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