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Old 06-18-2007, 04:19 AM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Is this always a set?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$3/$6 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

kmoneyk10: $639.55
HibachiMahi: $1,348.70
Hero: $799.00
OMARW: $188.80
pokachump: $577.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, OMARW folds, pokachump calls $21.00, kmoneyk10 folds, HibachiMahi calls $15.00

Flop: ($66) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
HibachiMahi checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $51.00</font>, pokachump calls $51.00, HibachiMahi folds

Turn: ($168) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $114.00</font>, <font color="red">pokachump raises all-in to $505.20</font>, Hero folds

Maybe trying to figure out what he has is pointless since it's a trivial fold, but it's hard to believe he has aces up here. How often is this something like JsTs?
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:24 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

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\ How often is this something like JsTs?

[/ QUOTE ]i'd say around 60% of the time
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

I think thats two pair more often than a set or a straight/flush draw. So easy fold for me but I am weak.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:23 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

I usually check the turn.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:39 AM
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I usually check the turn.

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But don't you often like to bet here as a 2b bluff?
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:03 AM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

Yeah, seems like you have to actually value bet the ace sometimes, if you are going to bluff it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:08 AM
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Yeah, seems like you have to actually value bet the ace sometimes, if you are going to bluff it.

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Surely most of the time in fact.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:28 AM
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I usually check the turn.

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But don't you often like to bet here as a 2b bluff?

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Isn't that the point? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:04 AM
zio_slim zio_slim is offline
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

I guess hero's line doesn't represent his hand....

I like a turn check.
As played, I guess against some tricky villains I call this, and instafold to a donk.
Our line looks bluffy and some thinking players that respect us as well could make a semibluff-move here.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Is this always a set?

i don't like a turn check, but I sure like a fold to the push.... you're not ahead so much except for the straight draws that picked up flush draws, but even still you're going to see a8 or a9 a lot.
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