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Old 10-09-2005, 09:05 PM
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Default Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

This hand happened last night and was a couple of hours into the session. The villian in this hand an older guy who is a little loose and kind of laggy in terms of his open raising standards, but like most live players has a fairly tight 3-betting range (ie JJ-AA, AK). At the time this hand takes place the table had been playing fairly tight. I had also been running well and showing down winners.

I open JT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP2, folds to sb who 3-bets, I call

Flop (7.5 sb) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
bet, call

Turn (~5 bb) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
bet, I raise

Thoughts on the turn raise? Also any comments on preflop welcome as well.
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

ummm...i don't play 20/40 but this seems kinda standard to me [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

ive never played 20/40 at the woods, but what percentage of the time do you estimate he folds AK or AQ on the turn or river ui? you have a decent amount of pot equity against any non-heart hand, but your fold equity should be one of the ctirical factors tipping whether you semibluff or call the turn.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

I like it as long as you think you can get him to fold AK
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

That's a good turn raise. At the same time, though, we may also fold AQ and AK by raising the flop and then betting the turn.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

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I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.

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I think raising this flop is bad as I will get 3-bet on this street by overpairs a lot of the time. Also AK is not going to fold to a flop raise and thus I'm commited to putting a turn bet rather than taking a free card (this is of course the times I am not 3-bet).
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

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I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.

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I think raising this flop is bad as I will get 3-bet on this street by overpairs a lot of the time. Also AK is not going to fold to a flop raise and thus I'm commited to putting a turn bet rather than taking a free card (this is of course the times I am not 3-bet).

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This is so intuitive but at the same time giving away so much.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

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I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.

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I think raising this flop is bad as I will get 3-bet on this street by overpairs a lot of the time. Also AK is not going to fold to a flop raise and thus I'm commited to putting a turn bet rather than taking a free card (this is of course the times I am not 3-bet).

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This is so intuitive but at the same time giving away so much.

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Are you in favor of a flop raise?
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand

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I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.

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I think raising this flop is bad as I will get 3-bet on this street by overpairs a lot of the time. Also AK is not going to fold to a flop raise and thus I'm commited to putting a turn bet rather than taking a free card (this is of course the times I am not 3-bet).

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This is so intuitive but at the same time giving away so much.

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Are you in favor of a flop raise?

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Absolutely not. I think this is the ideal line in that game. By giving away, I mean that it reveals a lot of information.
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