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Hobbs. 10-09-2005 09:05 PM

Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
This hand happened last night and was a couple of hours into the session. The villian in this hand an older guy who is a little loose and kind of laggy in terms of his open raising standards, but like most live players has a fairly tight 3-betting range (ie JJ-AA, AK). At the time this hand takes place the table had been playing fairly tight. I had also been running well and showing down winners.

I open JT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP2, folds to sb who 3-bets, I call

Flop (7.5 sb) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
bet, call

Turn (~5 bb) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
bet, I raise

Thoughts on the turn raise? Also any comments on preflop welcome as well.

@bsolute_luck 10-09-2005 09:44 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
ummm...i don't play 20/40 but this seems kinda standard to me [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

mterry 10-09-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
ive never played 20/40 at the woods, but what percentage of the time do you estimate he folds AK or AQ on the turn or river ui? you have a decent amount of pot equity against any non-heart hand, but your fold equity should be one of the ctirical factors tipping whether you semibluff or call the turn.

tehox 10-09-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
I like it as long as you think you can get him to fold AK

Borodog 10-09-2005 10:40 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
I think this hand is much easier to play if you raise the flop.

Buckmulligan 10-09-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
That's a good turn raise. At the same time, though, we may also fold AQ and AK by raising the flop and then betting the turn.

brettbrettr 10-09-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
I sort of hate this raise.

pauliewalnuts 10-09-2005 11:57 PM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
Nobody has mentioned the percentage of times he has AA-QQ and 3bets you. Also, even if he has AK, he is likely to call your turn raise and then fold the river UI if you fire again(if he is the type that can fold AK on a rag board). So, in that case it would leave you in an uncomfortable spot on the river. If you miss, the only way you can win is to bet, but a lot of times he has just resorted to calling you down and you are wasting a bet since he wont fold.

So, Id just call. You've got a ton of outs. Wait until you hit one to put in multiple bets.

Hobbs. 10-10-2005 02:15 AM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
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I sort of hate this raise.

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why?

Hobbs. 10-10-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Foxwooods 20/40: JTs hand
 
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Nobody has mentioned the percentage of times he has AA-QQ and 3bets you.

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I am going to very rarely get 3-bet by an over pair in this game. Live games tend to play more passive on big streets.


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