those mother-$#%$## min 3-bettors

schwza · #1 03-25-2007, 11:45 PM

BB had just gotten to the table, no reads on him. the limper is fishy so i was trying to isolate.

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Hero ($667)
SB ($72)
BB ($328.50)
UTG ($970.90)
MP ($821.50)
CO ($982.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, BB raises to $54, MP folds, Hero calls $24.

Flop: ($117) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $84, hero?

villain has 190 left after his bet.

FeNeF · #2 03-25-2007, 11:47 PM

Fold. Without better reads I assume I'm killed here.

schwza · #3 03-25-2007, 11:53 PM

preflop or on the flop? if we're folding the flop i don't see any reason to call preflop.

FeNeF · #4 03-25-2007, 11:59 PM

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preflop or on the flop? if we're folding the flop i don't see any reason to call preflop.

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I usually call PF getting like 4.5:1 + we often get his whole stack if we hit. I'd fold the flop. KTo is a crummy hand in this spot though, folding PF works too.

Eagles · #5 03-26-2007, 12:05 AM

This is close a lot of people min 3bet really wide.

b33nz · #6 03-26-2007, 12:07 AM

this is a simple shove if ur calling this PF... what board are u looking for playing this short?

snowbank · #7 03-26-2007, 12:09 AM

If you're going to fold this, you can't call pf.

Black Wings · #8 03-26-2007, 05:40 PM

Calling commits you both to the hand, so it works for me. Preflops fine imo. I've found that this sort of raise is more likely A7o or the like than AA etc.

schwza · #9 03-26-2007, 05:55 PM

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Calling commits you both to the hand, so it works for me. Preflops fine imo. I've found that this sort of raise is more likely A7o or the like than AA etc.

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i would say it's more likely AA than all of A2-AQ put together.

xker17x · #10 03-26-2007, 06:30 PM

i disagree completely schwza not on dudes first hand at the table im not going to give him enough respect to fold this as it was played if ur going to not play this flop to the felt doing be raising KT and certainly dont be calling reraises