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Old 02-02-2007, 11:25 AM
Sir Winalot Sir Winalot is offline
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Default BB special turns bonus-draw

UTG is new to the table, no history with him.

50nl, ipoker network

SB ($47)
Hero ($86)
UTG ($49)
CO ($71)
Button ($91)

Preflop: BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.25)
Hero bets $0.5, UTG raises to $2, Hero calls

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.25)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:30 AM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

both ur draws are fairly well disguised though if a queen hits ur pretty obvious...my line is to call and look to c/r river...though against some villians i dont mind open pushin if u hit
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

You are getting pretty much 2-1 pot odds and probably have 15 outs so the odds of making your hand are also about 2-1. Considering if you make your hand you will probably win quite a few $$ on the river this seems like a pretty +EV call to me. I don't like a raise as you rely too much on FE and I dont think you have enough.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

I like a raise on the turn just so you can stack villian if you hit on the river. As matt said your hand is well disguised so you have good implied odds.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

Versus the range you are bang on at 2:1 and I'd say your FE is juuuuust about ZIPPO so call, c/f missed river.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

2 of your outs are tainted, but you should still have about 14 outs (discarding one of the tainted diamonds).
Being roughly 2.5-1 underdog, you'd need to extract at least 2.25 if you hit on the river which should be very easy.

A raise could work well, too, but a set will certainly push and you'll have to give up your equity.
On the other hand, a c/r looks very strong here and should fold out a few hands that beat you currently.

I think I still prefer a call, since it's so easy to play it +EV this way.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:54 AM
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OOP i hate raising this
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: BB special turns bonus-draw

Easy call, raising is nuts.
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