BB special turns bonus-draw
 

UTG is new to the table, no history with him.

50nl, ipoker network

SB ($47)
Hero ($86)
UTG ($49)
CO ($71)
Button ($91)

Preflop: BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.25)
Hero bets $0.5, UTG raises to $2, Hero calls

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.25)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

both ur draws are fairly well disguised though if a queen hits ur pretty obvious...my line is to call and look to c/r river...though against some villians i dont mind open pushin if u hit

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

You are getting pretty much 2-1 pot odds and probably have 15 outs so the odds of making your hand are also about 2-1. Considering if you make your hand you will probably win quite a few $$ on the river this seems like a pretty +EV call to me. I don't like a raise as you rely too much on FE and I dont think you have enough.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

I like a raise on the turn just so you can stack villian if you hit on the river. As matt said your hand is well disguised so you have good implied odds.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

Versus the range you are bang on at 2:1 and I'd say your FE is juuuuust about ZIPPO so call, c/f missed river.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

2 of your outs are tainted, but you should still have about 14 outs (discarding one of the tainted diamonds).
Being roughly 2.5-1 underdog, you'd need to extract at least 2.25 if you hit on the river which should be very easy.

A raise could work well, too, but a set will certainly push and you'll have to give up your equity.
On the other hand, a c/r looks very strong here and should fold out a few hands that beat you currently.

I think I still prefer a call, since it's so easy to play it +EV this way.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

OOP i hate raising this

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

Easy call, raising is nuts.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

I made a mistake by not considering if villian pushes after we raise, but I still consider raising some decent portion of the time.

Re: BB special turns bonus-draw
 

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I made a mistake by not considering if villian pushes after we raise, but I still consider raising some decent portion of the time.

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What do you gain with raising?