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Old 01-05-2007, 08:40 AM
Perhan Perhan is offline
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Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J.
2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 8, 9, K (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (1 BB) Q (2 players)</font>
SB bets</font>,Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 5 (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ?

Final Pot: 5 BB
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:48 AM
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Thin either way. Make the river a 4c and I fire no problem.
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:53 AM
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Raise PF, bet the flop. As played easy river value bet, although I might not raise the turn.
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:44 AM
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You should raise preflop.

Bet any (90%) non raised flop in a SB-BB battle when checked to in BB. So bet this one also.

Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling, since a K and JT would have probably bet the flop. Betting the river is a must since nothing really changed with that card.
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:28 AM
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Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling

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you think raising is better then calling but you wouldn't do it your self! What would you do then ? Fold ? Please do reply.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:25 PM
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Raising the turn is strong here, I like it. I wouldn't have done it myself but I think it's better than calling

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you think raising is better then calling but you wouldn't do it your self! What would you do then ? Fold ? Please do reply.

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I would have just called here in the heat of the battle, but I do think raising is better. That's what I meant.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:27 PM
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Raise PF, bet the flop. As played easy river value bet, although I might not raise the turn.

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Old 01-05-2007, 04:40 PM
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Raise PF, bet the flop. As played easy river value bet, although I might not raise the turn.

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Rethink. Turn raise was overaggro and skews the river. Villain may be checking a better hand on the river because of turn raise, so to correct for that play check the river though.
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Old 01-06-2007, 03:01 AM
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Rethink. Turn raise was overaggro and skews the river. Villain may be checking a better hand on the river because of turn raise, so to correct for that play check the river though.

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You are absolutely right in this case.
Good thinking.
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:34 AM
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Raise preflop, planning to bet the flop no matter what.

As played, bet the flop.

As played, the turn is okay. I might just call because villain will often fold to your raise but might be inclined to fire again on the river if you just call.

Bet the river.
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