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Old 11-30-2006, 11:52 AM
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Default Hand reading quizaroo

After carnivalhobo's post bet sizing and hand reading I thought I'll post a little hand reading quiz for fun and help the newer folks to start thinking about putting villans on hands.

For each question give a range for villan and also the hand you think Villan most likely holds.

e.g. range : {22+, Aks+} most likely hand: AA (black [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] j/k AA is fine as an answer)

Just to make it more interesting, whoever gets all the most likely hands right first or is closest will win a small prize
- I'll pay for their entry into one of the Stars uNL($10+1) lorez-riggaments [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Munkey's decison is final, no purchase necessary yada yah.. Any mistake(s)/clarifications just ask in the thread.

All these hands actually occured - I am only hero in 1 or two but Hero is always a PT rated TAG ( 20/10/2 at least for all intents here) To make it challenging I've given only villan's PT stats and not any notes I may hold on villan.

Edit: This has been sitting on my desktop unfinished gathering dust - time to post it and be damned [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


1. Villan is 34/14/4 122 hands(hds)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $45.95
UTG+1: $35.05
CO: $19.40
Button: $52.15
SB: $37.25
BB: $32.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $3.75</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $26.3</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $70.85



2. 53/13/2.5 over 30hds 7 flop aggression

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.75, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $27.9</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($63.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.55)


River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($63.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.55)


Results:
Final pot: $63.55



3. Villan (MP1) is 16/6.5/2 over 108hds

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $24.07
UTG+1: $60.68
MP1: $36.92
MP2: $29
MP3: $31.49
CO: $28.05
Button: $24.89
SB: $24.40
BB: $12.13

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds , SB calls, BB folds.

Flop:Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.25, 3 players)
SB checks,<font color="#cc0000"> Hero bets $2.57</font>, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.96, 3 players)
SB checks,<font color="#cc0000"> Hero bets $7</font>,<font color="#cc0000"> MP1 raises to $14</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $7 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: $24.96



4. 50/26/4 over 80

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $132.85
CO: $356.65
Button: $109.05
SB: $129.05
BB: $42.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15.5, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15.5</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($46.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $21.6</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($89.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $89.7)


Results:
Final pot: $89.7



5. 22/16/1.95 286hds

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $95.50
UTG+1: $236.40
CO: $42
Button: $88.20
SB: $77.15
Hero: $125.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $11.5</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($86.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $84.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $35.65</font>.
Uncalled bets: $48.55 returned to Hero.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($157.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $157.8)


Results:
Final pot: $157.8



6. 50/23/3.8 river aggr 13 over 111hds

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.30
UTG+1: $9.50
CO: $49.95
Button: $29.90
SB: $84.55
Hero: $81.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $76.7</font>, SB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($162.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $162.9)


Results:
Final pot: $162.9



7. Villan (SB) is 20/5/1 over 189 PT rated rock

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $113.15
UTG+1: $9.5
CO: $227.70
Button: $105.95
SB: $89
BB: $95

Pre-flop: (5 players) BB is BB with xxxx
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $6</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $87</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $180


8. Villan (BB) is 18/8/2.3
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $174
Hero: $22.85
CO: $34.10
Button: $22.75
SB: $44.95
BB: $52.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $12
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Old 11-30-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading quizaroo

This looks great. Can't wait to try it.

However, it looks like there are two 4 of spades in the last example.
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Old 11-30-2006, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading quizaroo

well spotted wilco tks [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Not sure what happened there that hand got really mangled
-turn and river not what I've got on my desktop.

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Old 11-30-2006, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading quizaroo

Thanks, this is going to be fun.

Hand #1: range: {TT,AK,AA} , most likely hand: AA

Hand #2: range: {A8+, 76s, any two hearts}, most likely hand: two hearts, like JTs.

Hand #3: range: {33,55,88}, most likely hand: 88

Hand #4: range: {T9, 98, TT, 44}, most likely hand: 44

Hand #5: range: {AA,QQ,TT}, most likely hand: QQ

Hand #6: range: {Qx of hearts, Kx but not two pair, Ax of hearts, T9, QT}, most likely hand: Ax of hearts.

Hand #7: range: {77, 22, A2), most likely hand: 22

Hand #8: range: {77-JJ, AK), most likely hand: AK
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading quizaroo

Tl;dr

but as far as I got (Edit: OK I finished it)

1. I put him on KK, but Ax (most likely AK, but only god knows) is also likely

2. This is the easy one, 88 or 55 (with an AK, AQ trown in, but I doubt it)

3. Either a PP or an Ace of some sort. (You are minraised pwned)

4. Holla ... practically anything, overpair, straigt, straightdraw, two pair ... I suspect being behind, but would most likely spitecall anyway.

5. Big pocketpair or AJ ... I am guessing AA,QQ, JJ, or TT ... although a fool sometimes plays AK this way.

6. Who cares, you have got teh nutz

7. A slowplayed deuce most likely or he has backed into a straight

8. Here we watch Hero butcher a hand, why are there no bets, but only calls ??? I guessing two high cards of some sorts .
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Old 11-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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OK, I give too much credit to my opponent most times, so hopefully this will help seeing others ranges.

Hand 1 RANGE: TT,AA,AK,AQ | LIKELY: AA because of flop check
Hand 2 RANGE: 55,88,99,TT,67o,A8,A5,AK,AQ,any two hearts | LIKELY: QhJh due to shove
Hand 3 RANGE: 33,55,88 | LIKELY: 88
Hand 4 RANGE: A8,T9,98,T8,TT,99 | LIKELY: 98
Hand 5 RANGE: QQ+ | LIKELY QQ
Hand 6 RANGE: AT,T9,KQ,KJ,QJ | LIKELY: T9
Hand 7 RANGE: 22,77,99,TT | LIKELY: 22
Hand 8 RANGE: 33,77,88,99,AJ,AK,KJ | LIKELY: AK
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:54 AM
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Munkey, are we going to get the answer to these?
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:43 AM
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1. {TT+,KQs,79s,AQ+}:QQ
2. {A5+,55+,x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]y[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]}:85
3. {TT+,33,88}:88
4. {89+,97+,44+}:9T
5. {JJ+}:QQ, sick suckout
6. {two pair}:KJ
7. ......99
8. ......AK
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:11 AM
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Okay I clearly went all-out with my reads. I didn't read replies and made comments in Notepad, now that I scroll down I could've put into 1-line answers. Heh.


1. Reraises UTG raise preflop, probably AJ+, TT+. Doesn't C-bet on a flop that's generally likely to hit him. AA seems out of the question, as do AJ-AK. I'm guessing JJ-KK. Flat calls a turn bet and shoves overtop of your river bet with no fold equity. I'm guessing he has TT.

2. Villains range is wide as he just flat calls you and he's a 53/13 even though it's a very small sample size. He seems to be calling with a lot of connectors and suited aces or suited cards in general according to the numbers. He overbet shoves over your continuation bet, probably a combo draw. I'm gonna say 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

3. Again, villain's range is wide since he just flat called preflop. His numbers are tighter than the previous villain, so I'm going to tighten his range to only pocket pairs or Ace-x. He flat calls the flop, so he either hit part of it or thinks that you didn't. His minraise on the turn is screaming a set. I'm gonna guess 33.

4. BB calls your raise OOP, but he's a 50/26 so he could have a lot of hands. He checks and calls a pot-size bet, and calls an allin on the turn. He's also a shortstack so he most likely is a weak player. I think he plays like this with any pair, and I think it is something like TT-88, gonna lean towards TT, don't know why, just a gut feeling.

5. Solid TAGgy numbers, looks like he may be a 2+2 poster/reader. Calls a reraise in position, I would say AJs+, and any pair. He leads into you and calls a minraise, and check-calls an allin on the turn. This may be AJ, I don't think a set plays this way, I think it's AJ.

6. Limped pot, usually in my experience is two high cards or two medium-strength connecting cards. He leads into two players and called your reraise. Then he leads into you for pot again and calls your overbet reraise allin. I think he has T9, possibly of hearts. Either T9 or KQ, but leaning towards T9.

7. SB completes, probably with any two because they love to complete in uNL. He checks the flop, which is pretty standard and check-calls a small bet on the turn. May be a deuce, but I don't quite know. I would put SB on a deuce, maybe A2. His pot lead on the river screams a monster, but I don't know what is a monster to him. I would say A2 or K2.

8. Villain raises after two limpers OOP, and makes a continuation bet on a low, connecting board. I think any overpair does this, as does a diamond draw. Villain is pretty aggro postflop, so he may be betting with overs, but I don't think he'd do that into a 3-way pot. He checks the turn, so I think it may be diamonds, and he checks the river, which makes me think he has the diamonds, possibly A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:13 AM
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Imrahil

Ye I post the answers Sunday ~7PM UK- so that'll be the closing date.
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