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munkey 11-30-2006 11:52 AM

Hand reading quizaroo
 
After carnivalhobo's post bet sizing and hand reading I thought I'll post a little hand reading quiz for fun and help the newer folks to start thinking about putting villans on hands.

For each question give a range for villan and also the hand you think Villan most likely holds.

e.g. range : {22+, Aks+} most likely hand: AA (black [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] j/k AA is fine as an answer)

Just to make it more interesting, whoever gets all the most likely hands right first or is closest will win a small prize
- I'll pay for their entry into one of the Stars uNL($10+1) lorez-riggaments [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Munkey's decison is final, no purchase necessary yada yah.. Any mistake(s)/clarifications just ask in the thread.

All these hands actually occured - I am only hero in 1 or two but Hero is always a PT rated TAG ( 20/10/2 at least for all intents here) To make it challenging I've given only villan's PT stats and not any notes I may hold on villan.

Edit: This has been sitting on my desktop unfinished gathering dust - time to post it and be damned [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


1. Villan is 34/14/4 122 hands(hds)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $45.95
UTG+1: $35.05
CO: $19.40
Button: $52.15
SB: $37.25
BB: $32.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $3.75</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $26.3</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $70.85



2. 53/13/2.5 over 30hds 7 flop aggression

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.75, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $27.9</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($63.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.55)


River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($63.55, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $63.55)


Results:
Final pot: $63.55



3. Villan (MP1) is 16/6.5/2 over 108hds

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $24.07
UTG+1: $60.68
MP1: $36.92
MP2: $29
MP3: $31.49
CO: $28.05
Button: $24.89
SB: $24.40
BB: $12.13

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds , SB calls, BB folds.

Flop:Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.25, 3 players)
SB checks,<font color="#cc0000"> Hero bets $2.57</font>, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.96, 3 players)
SB checks,<font color="#cc0000"> Hero bets $7</font>,<font color="#cc0000"> MP1 raises to $14</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $7 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: $24.96



4. 50/26/4 over 80

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $132.85
CO: $356.65
Button: $109.05
SB: $129.05
BB: $42.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15.5, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15.5</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($46.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $21.6</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($89.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $89.7)


Results:
Final pot: $89.7



5. 22/16/1.95 286hds

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $95.50
UTG+1: $236.40
CO: $42
Button: $88.20
SB: $77.15
Hero: $125.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $11.5</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($86.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $84.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $35.65</font>.
Uncalled bets: $48.55 returned to Hero.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($157.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $157.8)


Results:
Final pot: $157.8



6. 50/23/3.8 river aggr 13 over 111hds

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.30
UTG+1: $9.50
CO: $49.95
Button: $29.90
SB: $84.55
Hero: $81.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $76.7</font>, SB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($162.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $162.9)


Results:
Final pot: $162.9



7. Villan (SB) is 20/5/1 over 189 PT rated rock

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $113.15
UTG+1: $9.5
CO: $227.70
Button: $105.95
SB: $89
BB: $95

Pre-flop: (5 players) BB is BB with xxxx
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $6</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $87</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $180


8. Villan (BB) is 18/8/2.3
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $174
Hero: $22.85
CO: $34.10
Button: $22.75
SB: $44.95
BB: $52.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $12

Wilco23 11-30-2006 12:07 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
This looks great. Can't wait to try it.

However, it looks like there are two 4 of spades in the last example.

munkey 11-30-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
well spotted wilco tks [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Not sure what happened there that hand got really mangled
-turn and river not what I've got on my desktop.

tks

Imrahil 11-30-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
Thanks, this is going to be fun.

Hand #1: range: {TT,AK,AA} , most likely hand: AA

Hand #2: range: {A8+, 76s, any two hearts}, most likely hand: two hearts, like JTs.

Hand #3: range: {33,55,88}, most likely hand: 88

Hand #4: range: {T9, 98, TT, 44}, most likely hand: 44

Hand #5: range: {AA,QQ,TT}, most likely hand: QQ

Hand #6: range: {Qx of hearts, Kx but not two pair, Ax of hearts, T9, QT}, most likely hand: Ax of hearts.

Hand #7: range: {77, 22, A2), most likely hand: 22

Hand #8: range: {77-JJ, AK), most likely hand: AK

Gelford 11-30-2006 01:07 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
Tl;dr

but as far as I got (Edit: OK I finished it)

1. I put him on KK, but Ax (most likely AK, but only god knows) is also likely

2. This is the easy one, 88 or 55 (with an AK, AQ trown in, but I doubt it)

3. Either a PP or an Ace of some sort. (You are minraised pwned)

4. Holla ... practically anything, overpair, straigt, straightdraw, two pair ... I suspect being behind, but would most likely spitecall anyway.

5. Big pocketpair or AJ ... I am guessing AA,QQ, JJ, or TT ... although a fool sometimes plays AK this way.

6. Who cares, you have got teh nutz

7. A slowplayed deuce most likely or he has backed into a straight

8. Here we watch Hero butcher a hand, why are there no bets, but only calls ??? I guessing two high cards of some sorts .

HotdogPoker 11-30-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
Okay, I'll play, but I think I suck at this [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Hand 1: With a PFR of 14, I think the range of him reraising preflop can't be huge. Given preflop action, I would put his range at JJ+, AK. This looks suspiciously like a slowplayed set, so I will put him on AA. I have found that aggressive players are more likely to check a monster like this on the flop.

Hand 2: It's too bad we don't have CCPF. While he's loose, it could mean he limps a lot of hands but doesn't cold call a lot. Range: 22+, any two broadway suited or unsuited. Most likely hand: villain is decently aggro, so I think he could do this with a flush draw or a decent (but weaker) ace. There isn't that much to go on, but I will just go with AJ.

Hand 3: Here, a nittier player. Coldcall preflop with those stats looks like a medium pocket pair, maybe a hand like AQ or KQ. I doubt a tighty would call a bet on a dry board with just overcards. I doubt he has the 5 also, and I'm also doubtful he would call preflop with 33, so I'll roll with 88.

Hand 4: Loose and in the big blind, his range is pretty big even against a raise. Any two connectors 54+, any pocket pair, any two broadway. Most likely hand: tough one. This action is screwing me up. Given the pot size, would villain think an all-in would push Hero out if Hero had a hand (which he has representing)? Probably not, so a made hand looks more likely. 87 might fit the bill here.

Hand 5: Villain's stats look similar to mine. Range: JJ+, AK. This looks like an overpair to the flop that is unsure, so QQ.

Hand 6: Preflop range is pretty much any two. Villain likes his hand enough to fire out on the flop, and again on the river after getting raised. Villain is aggro, so he could even have just one pair, but I doubt even someone like that would lead again on the turn with just one pair on a board like that. QJ?

Hand 7: Rocky, passive. Range preflop: Small or medium pocket pair, any two broadway that's not AK. This is a slowplayed *something*, as he was going for the overcall on the turn and now needs to bet the river to avoid it getting checked through. Villian looks really strong here, probably filled up somewhere along the way. Any of 77, 99, TT, but since I have to pick one, I'll go with 77 so that one is most likely to be limped.

Hand 8: Another tighty, out of position. Small PFR range: JJ+, AK. It doesn't look like he connected with anything, and the flop bet was just a standard c-bet. AK?

Jigsaws 11-30-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
Alright. Let's try this.

Hand 1: AA, TT, AK. Most likely: AA.

Hand 2: A2+, xhxh, 76o, 88, 55. Most likely: AJ.

Hand 3: 33, 55, 88. Most likely: 33 or 88.

Hand 4: 98, T9, 99, 56, TT, J9. Sometimes 44, 77, 88. Most likely: 98.

Hand 5: QQ, JJ, AA. Most likely: QQ.

Hand 6: xhxh, KT, QT, JT, T9. Most likely: T9.

Hand 7: 22, 77, 99, TT. Most likely: 77.

Hand 8: AK, obviously. Maybe 88, 99, AJ. Most likely: AK.

kazana 11-30-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
1) {JJ+, AQs+, AKo} most likely: AA
2) {22-JJ, AJ-AQ, suited connectors/1-/2-gappers} most likely: 76s
3) {22-TT, Axs} most likely: A5
4) {22-TT, any Ace, any two suited, any connectors/gappers} most likely: A9
5) {JJ+, AQs+, AKo} most likely: JJ
6) {ATC} most likely: T9
7) {AJ+, Axs, 22-QQ, suited connectors} most likely: TT
8) {AJ+, 99+} most likely: AK

BombayBadboy 11-30-2006 01:57 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
Very nice post sir. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'll try w/o readin the other answers.

Hand 1: TT,QQ+ or AK.

Hand 2: Any two hearts, any ace, 88 and 55.

Hand 3: 33,55 or 88.

Hand 4: 65,87,98,T9,44,77-TT.

Hand 5: JJ+, sometimes 55 or 33.

Hand 6: KJ,QJ,KQ,QT,JT,T9,KT or random hearts.

Hand 7: A2,22,77,TT.

Hand 8: AK or AJ.

Esmerelda 11-30-2006 02:35 PM

Re: Hand reading quizaroo
 
1) Range = {TT+, AK} Hand = AA
2) Range = {55, 88, suited heart connectors, A8s,A5s} Hand = 9h8h
3) Range = {33,55,88} hand = 33
4) Range = {98s,87s,65s, 44,77,88, 99} hand = 65s
5) Range = {QQ+} Hand = AA
6) Range = {QJ,KJ,KQ,AT,KT,T9} hand = KcJc
7) Range = {T2,92,72,J8,86) hand = Brunson
8) Range = {77-99,JJ} hand = 99


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