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Old 10-05-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one out?

This question came up today: Would you rather have a man on second with nobody out or a man on third with one out? I have a definite opinion, but others are demanding stats to back up my position. So here's the poll, and any resources to prove your side would be appreciated.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

It depends.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

no.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

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No.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

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No.

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the probability for just one run changes enough for the situation to matter, as everyone else in the thread has noted.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

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This isn't what I was referring to when I said it depends.

Unless you are very late in the game and tied(and sometimes down by 1), it is nearly always a horrible play sac bunting.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

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This isn't what I was referring to when I said it depends.

Unless you are very late in the game and tied(and sometimes down by 1), it is nearly always a horrible play sac bunting.

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I disagree. Maybe the best way of framing the question is - In which situation are you more likely to score?

I think you are more likely to score from second with no outs, so even in the bottom of the ninth, down by one, bunting is a generally bad play.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

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This isn't what I was referring to when I said it depends.

Unless you are very late in the game and tied(and sometimes down by 1), it is nearly always a horrible play sac bunting.

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I disagree. Maybe the best way of framing the question is - In which situation are you more likely to score?

I think you are more likely to score from second with no outs, so even in the bottom of the ninth, down by one, bunting is a generally bad play.

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I would bunt when it is tied, but not when down one.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Baseball situation question - 2nd base nobody out vs 3rd base one

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It does depend, to some extent on the batter (and the speed of the runner), but in general, do you think it is a good play to sac bunt with nobody out and a runner on second?

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't what I was referring to when I said it depends.

Unless you are very late in the game and tied(and sometimes down by 1), it is nearly always a horrible play sac bunting.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. Maybe the best way of framing the question is - In which situation are you more likely to score?

I think you are more likely to score from second with no outs, so even in the bottom of the ninth, down by one, bunting is a generally bad play.

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The value in 2nd no out comes from the potential for a big inning. With a "normal" batter, you are more likely to score with a runner at third and one out.
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