Stars $5 re-buy. AA vs. Very loose player

JoshNjuice · #1 06-07-2006, 09:21 PM

Villain has been in a lot of pots. He's obviously limping constantly because he has a lot of chips. He doesn't seem particularly passive or aggressive.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
UTG (Villain)/ (t28620)
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
Hero (t4765)
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t800, 4 folds, UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero ???

I realize this probably seems standard to everyone. I'm going to ask for input on every street, but I want to get a consensus on what my play should be on the flop before I continue.

Thanks!

JoshNjuice

Bungler · #2 06-07-2006, 10:22 PM

I would just make a standard continuation bet of about 1200 and hope he makes a move at the pot. If called, my money is going in on the turn.

JoshNjuice · #3 06-08-2006, 06:22 PM

So I made a standard c-bet on the flop (just over half pot).

Does anyone have a problem with this bet? What action would be appropriate on the turn? Please note the relavant stacks. Stack-sizes gave me trouble on this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
UTG (t28620)
UTG+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
Hero (t4765)
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t800, 4 folds, UTG calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t1000, UTG calls t1000.

Turn: (t3900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ???

I'll share my thinking on the turn after I get some replies. I'd like to see if I'm thinking correctly throughout the hand.

Thanks

JoshNjuice

tubasteve · #4 06-08-2006, 06:31 PM

Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.

RoundTower · #5 06-08-2006, 07:28 PM

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Check behind, call any river bet b/c you are pot committed but if he doesn't bet I wouldn't either.

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Why? Any hand that beats you will get it in, but he will surely call you with weaker hands. I would bet bigger on the flop and I would bet now and if I checked now I would push a blank river if checked to.

nath · #6 06-08-2006, 07:39 PM

Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

FortunaMaximus · #7 06-08-2006, 07:41 PM

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Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

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Ditto. Gotta price out the draws on the flop.

JoshNjuice · #8 06-08-2006, 07:46 PM

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Your flop bet needs to be bigger because the draw potential on that board is huge.
As played, check behind, hit heart or jack on river.

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How much bigger?

JoshNjuice · #9 06-08-2006, 09:59 PM

Ok, so I should've bet more like 3/4 pot to full pot on flop (and pushed any turn, correct?). As played, check behind turn, which is what I did. What's the right play on this river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t10938)
BB (t10805)
Villain (t28620)
Villain+1 (t9600)
MP1 (t10350)
MP2 (t12650)
Hero (t4765)
CO (t10350)
Button (t7025)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Villain calls t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t800, 4 folds, Villain calls t600.

Flop: (t1900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets t1000, Villain calls t1000.

Turn: (t3900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero checks.

River: (t3900) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets t1200, Hero ???

Thanks to everyone for your input

JoshNjuice

AceLuby · #10 06-08-2006, 11:32 PM

1500 is a good bet on the flop.
Bet the turn, at least 1500, you still don't know where your hand stands. The K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is a really big scare card. If you get re-raised, you might be able to get rid of it.

River: as it stands I think you need to push if you are thinkging about calling, you have 3 K, 3 Q, 3 T, 3 7, 1 Ace and any heart (9 max, I'd say FOR SURE 5), so given that all these aren't live I'd say you have AT LEAST 13 outs and at most 16-17, I'd say you have to push.