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Old 08-15-2006, 05:09 PM
Frinkenstein Frinkenstein is offline
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Default $27 AK on bubble

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5655)
Button (t2680)
Hero (t3610)
BB (t1555)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:11 PM
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I flat call and go to the felt if I flop TPTK.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:03 PM
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Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:07 PM
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I agree with Jay here, in the second scenario i push preflop though.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:09 PM
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Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

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Scenario #2 is quite a bit different, and yes I'd push it.

And I actually really like Jay's play in Scenario #1
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:18 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

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Hi

I push scenario 1 and fold scenario 2

Mack

Edit: I might push scenario 2 as well actually, we aint in great shape are we.
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:02 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hi

I push scenario 1 and fold scenario 2

Mack

Edit: I might push scenario 2 as well actually, we aint in great shape are we.

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There's almost no way it's ever correct to fold a premium hand like AK this late in a SNG. There's lots of chips in the middle, and if your stack isn't big enough to have FE, then it's short enough to make it a great double-up hand. There's only a couple bubble scenarios, which come up once a blue moon, where folding AK is +ev.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:05 PM
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I would push this against most players here.

rvg
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:06 PM
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I would push this against most players here.

rvg

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You mean the original scenario?
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:09 PM
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I would push this against most players here.

rvg

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You mean the original scenario?

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I generally push in both of these scenarios. I don't like calling since you only hit this flop 30% of the time. I don't like folding since you have a great hand.

Pushing gives you lots of fold equity and lots of chips and the CO will be in tough to call you since he will be fighting to be ITM if he loses. When he does call you are either dominating him or a little below 50/50 most of the time.

rvg
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