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Frinkenstein 08-15-2006 05:09 PM

$27 AK on bubble
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5655)
Button (t2680)
Hero (t3610)
BB (t1555)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero ???

Jay Riall 08-15-2006 05:11 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
I flat call and go to the felt if I flop TPTK.

Frinkenstein 08-15-2006 07:03 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

rvg72 08-15-2006 07:05 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
I would push this against most players here.

rvg

Frinkenstein 08-15-2006 07:06 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
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I would push this against most players here.

rvg

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You mean the original scenario?

Sabrazack 08-15-2006 07:07 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
I agree with Jay here, in the second scenario i push preflop though.

Knight Vision 08-15-2006 07:09 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

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Scenario #2 is quite a bit different, and yes I'd push it.

And I actually really like Jay's play in Scenario #1

rvg72 08-15-2006 07:09 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would push this against most players here.

rvg

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You mean the original scenario?

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I generally push in both of these scenarios. I don't like calling since you only hit this flop 30% of the time. I don't like folding since you have a great hand.

Pushing gives you lots of fold equity and lots of chips and the CO will be in tough to call you since he will be fighting to be ITM if he loses. When he does call you are either dominating him or a little below 50/50 most of the time.

rvg

mackthefork 08-15-2006 07:18 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone else agree/disagree with Jay's assessment?


Scenario 2:
Now, let's say the chipstacks are:
CO (6155)
Button (3180)
Hero (2110)
BB (2055)
Does this become a push? or a fold?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hi

I push scenario 1 and fold scenario 2

Mack

Edit: I might push scenario 2 as well actually, we aint in great shape are we.

Frinkenstein 08-15-2006 07:23 PM

Re: $27 AK on bubble
 
I've been wrestling with this one largely between pushing and folding...

On one hand:
-AK plays better when you see all 5 cards.
-CO should be raising a relatively wide range here
-I am second biggest stack and should have some fold equity
-I may have many of his holdings either beat or dominated and there only KK and AA that would have me dominated.

On the other hand:
-I'm have a healthy stack and no need to risk it all at this point
-CO is the big stack
-If I fold, there is some chance that BB will get eliminated somehow

I can see the argument for flat calling since we have a decent chip stack... But is that OK since we're likely to miss 70% of the time?


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