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whyzze 10-08-2007 04:14 PM

50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
I havn't been at the table for very long. Villian is running 35/21/3 over 400 hands. I have no specific reads/history, and I doubt he does either.

Since I have sat down I am running about 22/21 and havn't even seen a turn card.


Can you put both of us on a range here? I guess what I am asking is, what holding of mine is optimal for this line, and what could villian take this line with.

EDIT: Also, what hands are you checking behind with on turn, and calling river if you are hero?



Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $17.10
CO: $64.40
Hero (BTN): $49.25
SB: $20.50
BB: $61
UTG: $50.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $5.50</font>, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($29.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($29.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.75 and is All-In</font>, BB tanks

wingchunflush 10-08-2007 04:19 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
hmmm I am not very good at this. Maybe AQ and got lucky on the river. As for what your doing this with I have no idea, not a set, you dont call the raise preflop with qj, I think you raise the flop with QQ. I dont know....i am excited to see the results.

popeye18 10-08-2007 04:23 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
Villain has to have aa or kk here, both of which id fold on the river. Id put you on qq.

wingchunflush 10-08-2007 04:25 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
I dont see a guy checking the turn here with AA or KK I think these numbers indicate betting each street. He might have AK and decide to try and take it on the river.

DaycareInferno 10-08-2007 04:28 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
i'd call you with 99/TT, beacuse your line makes no sense, and i can't put you on a hand.

mookboi 10-08-2007 04:29 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
I think Hero got QJ. Anything else just doesn't make sense.
I'd start my range off like this:
For hero (as played):

Preflop: 22-QQ, AQs+, AJs, AK, 65s+, 97s+
Flop: 66-77, (A-Q)J, 98s maybe, but prolly not against aggro villain
Turn: KJ, QJ, 98s (if we still in with it)
River: Well, the only hands out of those I'd shove here with is QJ. :\

For villain: Gah, I'm really bad at this kinda stuff for villain, and I think it's my biggest leak at tables. I don't really start putting them on a range until I see what the flop action is, basically because I don't have time, and people play all kinda crap preflop. Honestly, I think homeboy got like AJs, KQ, AQ or some pair like TT here or I don't know really. Why did he check turn? Weirdo.

MoWeeNo 10-08-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
Hero: 66,77,JJ though I don't like the check on the turn. Maybe QJs.
BB: AQ,66,77,JJ-AA.

Your second question checking behind the turn and call the river, JTs??

wingchunflush 10-08-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
22/21 calling a raise with qj?? I dont know about that.

scallop 10-08-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
You raised then called pf - standard range for me is pocket pairs, AQ, AJ.

66/77 fit your line well. A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] would fit also, only because you checked the turn.

Sets.
AJ
QJ in that order.

I can see you pushing the river with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] if you felt that your opponent could fold KQ, you obviously push the river with sets, and can happilly check turn behind with 66/77 because your playing vs aggro opponent who might a)bet his flush draw and b)probablly doesnt have a flush draw.

QJ is a small possibility if you felt that villian 3-bet light, which his stats would suggest (but in 400 hands I think you might get a read on this)

Villian never has AA or KK imo, this guy bets every street with those hands on that board.

popeye18 10-08-2007 04:31 PM

Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i'd call you with 99/TT, beacuse your line makes no sense, and i can't put you on a hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think the river bet makes any sense with 99/TT unless its just to try and stop a bluff.


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