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Kos13 08-10-2007 03:35 AM

100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
The original raiser (MP1) is the only player I have any reads on, and he's so short that he's insignificant. MP2, the original min-raiser, has me covered, so an overcall still doesn't guarantee that I'll see a flop.

UB NLHE - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players

SB: $48.05
BB: $52.20
UTG: $49.80
UTG+1: $48.50
MP1: $11.50
MP2: $109.05
MP3: $69.05
CO: $24.80
Hero (BTN): $99.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $8.50</font>, 1 fold, HERO

crunny 08-10-2007 03:36 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
LOL, this is a funny hand. You have to fold, i can guarantee you that someone has KK or AA here.

pterodactyl_ 08-10-2007 03:39 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
So weird but I think a fold is in order

sakrei 08-10-2007 06:09 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
why is your stack so short, and set value time?

22pajo 08-10-2007 06:21 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
MP1 might be so short he just fancies stacking off with any 2 cards.
MP2 might be aware of this and is trying to isolate with 2 broadways or mid pocket pair.
MP3 surely has a hand but how can we be sure its AA or KK. JJ or TT are not unlikely.

I bang in a 16 - 20 raise here and see what happens.

piebear 08-10-2007 06:21 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
sakrei you can't call that assuming you'll see a flop for set value. One of the two other players behind is likely to shove.

Johnes Benjamin 08-10-2007 06:42 AM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
LOL at calling "for set value."
A case could easily be made for putting in a raise here but I think I would probably just fold.
I think someone has AA/KK here pretty often. If you see a flop you will either have to fold to any aggression, stack off MP3's 70BB if QQ remains an overpair, or fold out someone else's JJ/TT or weaker holding.
Anything less than QQ is weak enough that you can get away from it, so the only time you are stacking off here is when you are beat.
You will be ahead preflop a significant portion of the time, but I really don't think the money you make raising here will quite even out with the money you lose when you are beat.
You will give up value many times but honestly I would just not get involved here and let them fight it out.

Kos13 08-10-2007 07:04 PM

Re: 100NL: QQ Facing Min-Raise Fest
 
[ QUOTE ]
why is your stack so short

[/ QUOTE ]

Am I being leveled here?

Anyway, I thought I'd post the rest of the hand since I've never seen anything like this. If I did fold the best hand, AK got there anyway, but this looks like KK/AA for sure.

UB NLHE - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players

SB: $48.05
BB: $52.20
UTG: $49.80
UTG+1: $48.50
MP1: $11.50
MP2: $109.05
MP3: $69.05
CO: $24.80
Hero (BTN): $99.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $8.50</font>, Hero folds, 4 folds, MP2 calls $2.50

Flop: ($22) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $5.00</font>, MP3 calls $5.00

Turn: ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $12.00</font>, MP2 folds
Uncalled bet of $12.00 returned to MP3

Pot Size: $32.00 ($1.60 Rake)


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