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FinalPot 07-17-2007 01:55 PM

nl 200 - 22
 
PokerStars 200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BU ($204)
CO ($226.05) (20/12/1.44/39) (82h) (vp/pfr/af(wts)
BB ($200)
UTG ($303.80)
MP ($522)
Hero ($209.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls $19.

Flop: ($57) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $38</font>, CO calls $38.

Turn: ($133) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">CO bets $161.05 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $294.05.

do you like the flop bet ??

Fletcher19 07-17-2007 02:03 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
no, just c/f flop

DaCooler 07-17-2007 02:07 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
i dont hate the flop bet, he could easily have 88 99 1010 JJ KK

Mike MacIntosh 07-17-2007 02:10 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
3betting a 20/12's CO raise at 200NL w/ 22 OOP is spewtastic.

tarheeljks 07-17-2007 02:13 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
[ QUOTE ]
i dont hate the flop bet, he could easily have 88 99 1010 JJ KK

[/ QUOTE ]

nah, this guy looks like a station- 40% went to showdown. just c/f. also, why did you raise this in the first place?

KurtSF 07-17-2007 02:16 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
[ QUOTE ]
3betting a 20/12's CO raise at 200NL w/ 22 OOP is spewtastic.

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I like the flop more than I like preflop. Yech.

FinalPot 07-17-2007 02:20 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
sometimes i 3bet small PPs Preflop .. just to mix it up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

klownage 07-17-2007 02:24 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
lol at preflop play.

FinalPot 07-17-2007 02:32 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
why lol ? i'm OOP so it is better than cold calling.

Mike MacIntosh 07-17-2007 02:33 PM

Re: nl 200 - 22
 
[ QUOTE ]
sometimes i 3bet small PPs Preflop .. just to mix it up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

You are 3betting w/ a marginal hand that misses ~ 7/8 flops OOP against a reasonable player. This is simply -EV at 200NL (lmk if you need me to elaborate on this).

It is not correct to mix -EV moves because you like to "mix it up". This is fairly bad reasoning.

Pre-flop mistakes tend to put players into very marginal/difficult spots post-flop. Which is exactly what happened here.


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