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chaz64 06-17-2007 12:42 PM

$16: SB v BB, flops FD, turns a pair
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2615)
CO (t1285)
Button (t2125)
Hero (t2700)
BB (t4775)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t75, BB checks

Flop: (t300) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t250

Turn: (t1100) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero?

Since there was no PF raise I don't give him credit for an ace or large PP. Maybe he has a T or smaller PP? What's your move here? Or should I have folded earlier?

Comments appreciated.

MaLiik 06-17-2007 01:11 PM

Re: $16: SB v BB, flops FD, turns a pair
 
Why only call PF, I'd raise if I play the hand. Giving a free flop is the same as gambling!

NoahL 06-17-2007 01:13 PM

Re: $16: SB v BB, flops FD, turns a pair
 
He doesn't have an ace, I go in for a bet. You only get action if he calls with a ten (so you cant bet too much) or if he wants to bluff you, saying you dont have an ace either.

chaz64 06-17-2007 02:44 PM

Re: $16: SB v BB, flops FD, turns a pair
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why only call PF, I'd raise if I play the hand. Giving a free flop is the same as gambling!

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought at the time that the hand was too good to fold, yet not good enough to raise with. What range do you typically raise with in these spots? Are you folding everything else (raise or fold PF only)?

MaLiik 06-17-2007 03:00 PM

Re: $16: SB v BB, flops FD, turns a pair
 
[ QUOTE ]
I thought at the time that the hand was too good to fold, yet not good enough to raise with. What range do you typically raise with in these spots? Are you folding everything else (raise or fold PF only)?

[/ QUOTE ]It's pretty much a raise/fold for me. If I enter the pot without a raise I only leave myself open to rag hands which could hurt me if I would flop a high pair.

My range would be dependent on the player, my image and the gut feeling at the moment [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

This is however not a hand I would push.

IMO entering a pot from the SB/Button first in the pot without a raise is almost always bad.


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