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mosta 03-11-2007 02:01 PM

high limit razz hand cross-post
 
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Full Tilt Poker Game #1965062594: Table Hatteras - $1000/$2000 Ante $200 - Limit Razz - 1:34:33 ET - 2007/03/11
Seat 1: captain12345 ($43,714)
Seat 2: durrrr ($19,800)
Seat 6: Gus Hansen ($13,698)
Seat 7: Luigi66369 ($61,492)
durrrr antes $200
Luigi66369 antes $200
captain12345 antes $200
Gus Hansen antes $200
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Luigi66369 [2h]
Dealt to captain12345 [Ah]
Dealt to durrrr [5d]
Dealt to Gus Hansen [Qh]
Gus Hansen is high with [Qh]
Gus Hansen brings in for $300
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 folds
captain12345 completes it to $1,000
durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr raises to $2,000
Gus Hansen folds
captain12345 calls $1,000
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to captain12345 [Ah] [Kc]
Dealt to durrrr [5d] [9d]
durrrr bets $1,000
captain12345 calls $1,000
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to captain12345 [Ah Kc] [Th]
Dealt to durrrr [5d 9d] [Td]
durrrr bets $2,000
captain12345 calls $2,000
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to captain12345 [Ah Kc Th] [4d]
Dealt to durrrr [5d 9d Td] [5h]
captain12345 has 15 seconds left to act
captain12345 bets $2,000
durrrr raises to $4,000
captain12345 raises to $6,000
durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr raises to $8,000
captain12345 has 15 seconds left to act
captain12345 calls $2,000
*** 7TH STREET ***
captain12345 checks
durrrr bets $2,000
captain12345 calls $2,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
durrrr shows [7c 4s 5d 9d Td 5h 3s] (9,7,5,4,3)
captain12345 mucks
durrrr wins the pot ($31,098) with 9,7,5,4,3

HOWMANY 03-11-2007 02:09 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
As soon as I saw durrrrr was playing Razz I was going to ask how big of a fish the 4th guy in the game was. Then I read the hand.

Andy B 03-11-2007 02:31 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
If you happen to have the full hand history, there is a converter here.

Third and fourth are pretty standard, as far as I can tell. I think the captain has a fold on fifth. durrr's raise on sixth is poor, in my opinion, and four-betting is just spewing.

*TT* 03-11-2007 03:05 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
Whats so shocking about this hand? Captain went to far with his (25)a or (35)A (I doubt (23)A but thats possible too), and was a huge favorite to win on 6th street but didn't get there. He called down 1 street father than he should have which is a bit fishy but not too horrible because he probably felt good card might win the pot (he was wrong). This hand is actually kinda standard, and Durr needs some coaching on hand reading this game. I fixed the format below.

Razz ($1,000/$2,000), Ante $200, Bring-In $300 (converter)

Seat 1: captain12345 ($43,714)
Seat 2: durrrr ($19,800)
Seat 6: Gus Hansen ($13,698)
Seat 7: Luigi66369 ($61,492)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.10 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.55 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.55 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises

River - (13.55 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (15.55 BB - $31,100)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Note: this site shuffles the hole cards.

durrrr shows [7c 4s 5d 9d Td 5h 3s] (9,7,5,4,3)
captain12345 mucks

</font>

BlueSmurf 03-11-2007 03:40 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
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Whats so shocking about this hand?

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You don't find the 6th street cap by durrr an abomination?

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This hand is actually kinda standard

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You'd know better than me and I believe you, but that really surprises me.

Cheers,

Smurf

*TT* 03-11-2007 04:09 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Whats so shocking about this hand?

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You don't find the 6th street cap by durrr an abomination?


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Most well rounded fantastic players like Durr who have no Razz hand reading experience would play it the same. Durr got lucky on the river... I see hands played like this at many levels, it doesn't shock me at all even though its bad.

big e 03-11-2007 04:17 PM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
Tend to agree with the rest of the comments.

Call the raise on 6 but don't re-raise.
The very best seat 2 can make is a 9 low, and most of the other low cards are still in play.

Micturition Man 03-12-2007 12:01 AM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 

Durrr misread his hand on 6th and thought he had a board lock.

Bill Murphy 03-12-2007 12:14 AM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2499653

Hmm, didn't think Capt was that big a dog. But, I guess taking one off and hoping the other guy misreads the boards is a good strategy is 1K/2K razz.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2499657

Durr had his fu manspew face on here.

*TT* 03-12-2007 12:31 AM

Re: high limit razz hand cross-post
 
[ QUOTE ]
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2499653

Hmm, didn't think Capt was that big a dog. But, I guess taking one off and hoping the other guy misreads the boards is a good strategy is 1K/2K razz.

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Poker Essays - page 137-138. "A World Class Play". That essay explains Captain's thought process well. Captain just barely had the implied odds to call if he caught perfect - IF he knew Durr would re-raise him on 6th thinking he had a board lock. Although Mason calls it World Class, I'd call it a very good read on a risky play that when it works pays off in spades.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


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