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KKbluff 03-27-2006 01:19 AM

there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
As outlined in the book "The Bell Curve" there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ that cannot be sufficiently explained by environmental factors such as nutrition, social policy, or racism.

I havent read this monster of a book (yet), but does anyone care on elaborating a little more on this?

bunny 03-27-2006 01:25 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
I dont think it's very clear what IQ measures (I dont think it's intelligence) but whatever it is is clearly affected by culture so I guess that would explain a difference. Not sure that it means very much though.

Jshuttlesworth 03-27-2006 01:35 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
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I dont think it's very clear what IQ measures (I dont think it's intelligence)

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Care to elaborate?

Go Blue 03-27-2006 01:39 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ#IQ_correlations

"Neither test bias nor simple differences in socioeconomic status explain the IQ differences."

MidGe 03-27-2006 01:58 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
As has been mentionned many times on this forum. The problem is that racial identification is a fiction. There are no scientific ways to consistently identify race (genetics have made this absolutely clear).

Jshuttlesworth 03-27-2006 02:02 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
sigh

KKbluff 03-27-2006 02:16 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
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There are no scientific ways to consistently identify race (genetics have made this absolutely clear).

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I believe you, but do you have any references that I can read that will back this up?

EDIT: nevermind, I just noticed Go Blue and his link.

Jshuttlesworth 03-27-2006 02:17 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
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I believe you

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WHY?!?

KKbluff 03-27-2006 02:19 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
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I believe you

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WHY?!?

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Ok, well, "I trust his info is correct" is more of what I was trying to get at.
That said, I still wanted some proof to back it up.

bunny 03-27-2006 02:25 AM

Re: there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ
 
I have never seen a very good definition of intelligence but I have seen people I consider intelligent with very poor scores. I also happen to be good at IQ tests and get a high score - but I dont consider myself very intelligent.

Another telling point (I believe) is you can read a book on "How to improve your IQ" and boost your scores fairly substantially with minimal effort - I doubt many would say you have suddenly become more intelligent though.


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