I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

Villain is unknown 2 scenarios:

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $95.58
SB: $386.90
Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $73.70
CO: $38.17

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets $19 </font>, BTN raises to $40, Hero???

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $95.58
SB: $386.90
Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $73.70
CO: $38.17

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets $19 </font>, BTN calls $19

Turn: ($62.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Villain has $64 remaining, do I bet/call or c/r?

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

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Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.

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what range do you put villain on in hand 1?

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

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Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.

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yeah i think i'm pretty much pot committed here so i like this line

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

It's hard to say when you have no reads, but usually a solid player 4 bet PF with QQ KK under blind stealing circumstances. Since you hold an Ace, it's less likely that your opponent has AA. I think you are ahead of KJ QJ PP (non set) quite often to make it a profitable play. Again, since there is no read, my advice is heavy based on the blind stealing situation. If he is somewhat tight, it's a fold

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

Forgot to mention, that board is dry enough for him to slowplay a set, so I erased that possibility

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

you have to get it in in both hands. If you don't really want to get it in you should consider checking the flop. But there are 8 cards you don't want to see so betting should be standard.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

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you have to get it in in both hands. If you don't really want to get it in you should consider checking the flop. But there are 8 cards you don't want to see so betting should be standard.

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Should I be playing for stacks here?

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

You don't have to, but like I said, unless you have good reads, otherwise I would shove

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

The pot is already more than a quarter of the remaining stacks, what is, under normal circumstances, an easy decision to get it in with TPTK. This board is very dry, meaning you should be less likely to get it in, but I'd still shove hand 1, b/c hand 2.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

been running bad hence the question i think both are an easy stack off

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

GRUNCH:

I push in hand 1 but it's very close. i think he does this with Jx and sometimes as a bluff.

Hand 2 i think i C-C to give him a chance to bluff and for value on the river if it's checked through.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

Both hands i bet less on the flop fwiw. You can accomplish all the same things with a $16 bet.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

what about calling in hand 1) and c/r turn or shove river?
this way we give him a chance to bluff the turn

How much % of unknown villians range is air here?

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

Hand 1 is closer than people think, he will show up with QQ and KK a lot here.

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

hand 1 is a tough spot.

hand 2 is easy, pause for a sec and shove - make it look like AK so he calls looks u up light. betting anything less looks like a made hand and you'll only get action if youre beat.

my suggestion - don't insta 3bet unknowns preflop since u get put in tough spots postflop. just play small pot poker until you know what youre dealing with

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

yes, if I were BU I's seldom 4b QQ+

Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused
 

id go all in and not think twice