QQ faces possible "JadeStar" raise 400 NL 10-max Party

[spino1i]

Assume you had all statistics on the villain here, what statistics would you use to deduce whether or not to call this pre-flop raise and further what your plan would be on a flop high card jack or lower?

Note: JadeStar is a 200 NL PartyPoker player famous for making very very large pre-flop raises with AA and KK in an effort to trap other people w/ QQ, JJ, and AK.

Critique on all streets needed..

***** Hand History for Game 4121665761 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, April 28, 18:00:31 ET 2006
Table Table 105090 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Foxbat3 ( $503.20 )
Seat 3: LarsJensen3 ( $538.40 )
Seat 4: bryanc426 ( $670.50 )
Seat 5: Arsenik66 ( $902.80 )
Seat 6: whyme12 ( $357.20 )
Seat 7: Troms ( $474.30 )
Seat 8: businesstrip ( $384 )
Seat 9: PowPowMeow ( $191.50 )
Seat 10: MegaTilt_R ( $354 )
Seat 2: Evil_Ecstasy ( $392 )
Arsenik66 posts small blind [$2].
whyme12 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evil_Ecstasy [ Qc Qh ]
Troms folds.
businesstrip folds.
PowPowMeow raises [$24].
MegaTilt_R folds.
Foxbat3 folds.
Evil_Ecstasy calls [$24].
LarsJensen3 folds.
bryanc426 folds.
Arsenik66 folds.
whyme12 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 5s, 7h ]
PowPowMeow checks.
Evil_Ecstasy bets [$40].
PowPowMeow is all-In [$167.50]
Evil_Ecstasy ???

[roo400]

call

[Cesaro]

This is a pretty standard raise, it's not absurd. I guess preflop is a bit big, i guess that's what you're talking about.

You have no reads on the villain? It's a really read dependent situation. I think he's a 2p2er, I've seen the name around. You're probably way behind an overpair, margainally ahead/slightly behind a big draw, and way behind a set/two pair.

If villain doesnt know me, I'm assuming he thinks i'm a donk since this is 200 nl and I'd fold. If he has some respect for my game here I probably call. It's close though

[spino1i]

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This is a pretty standard raise, it's not absurd. I guess preflop is a bit big, i guess that's what you're talking about.

You have no reads on the villain? It's a really read dependent situation. I think he's a 2p2er, I've seen the name around. You're probably way behind an overpair, margainally ahead/slightly behind a big draw, and way behind a set/two pair.

If villain doesnt know me, I'm assuming he thinks i'm a donk since this is 200 nl and I'd fold. If he has some respect for my game here I probably call. It's close though

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Keep in mind this is 400 nl and villain has a 50x BB stack.

I guess the idea the more TAG the villain is the more you want to fold.

[Woolygimp]

This jadestar guy sounds like a donk famous for making -ev plays.

[spino1i]

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This jadestar guy sounds like a donk famous for making -ev plays.

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He was actually one of the most winning players on the Party 200 NL 10-max game. At least 6 months ago when I still played 200 NL 10-max lol.

[Ness]

jadestar=powpowmeow?

[CamelZoo]

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This jadestar guy sounds like a donk famous for making -ev plays.

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jadestar = woolygimp??



no but for real i usually call this w QQ on the flop against strawberry mcshortstack. his combos of TT/JJ/A8/FD outweigh whatever you are losing to IMO

[Andrew Karpinski]

Absolutely call. In this game, getting your stack in with QQ as an overpair is definitely a winning play against some random short stack. If the bard was like J104 you might want to lay it down.