Re-opening the raising in NLHE cash game

[Headhunter13]

Playing in a local card room, there was $80 in the pot. Player A opened for $100. B called, and C shoved for a total of $145. Player D asked if the shove re-opened the betting. Floor came over and ruled that it had to be half of the original bet to re-open it ... so it did not re-open it in this instance.

There was then some discussion about whether it takes a full raise or half raise to re-open. Floor said that wherever he's played ... specifically Atlantic City, Caesar's Louisville, and Argosy (Cincinnati), that they all use the "half-raise" rule.

Clearly if half-raise if the house rule, then it's the house rule. Just curious if anyone has first hand knowledge of "half-raise" or "full-raise" at these casinos ...and others in general (Vegas, Tunica, CA, etc).

Thanks,

--Headhunter

[mrkilla]

Half Raise tends to be an old rule that got dragged over from the limit games and is generally everywhere I played (Vegas, Canada, AC and Foxwoods)

[mosch]

I'd expect the full-raise rule to apply here. (and in most major casinos.)

That said, the situation doesn't arise often enough for me to know which way it is supposed to go at most of the places I've played.

[Percula]

Full raise in NL, half in LE.

Too bad many floors these days have no NL knowledge to apply the rules correctly.

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Full raise in NL, half in LE.

Too bad many floors these days have no NL knowledge to apply the rules correctly.

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in my experience this is house dependent; unless the floor is just consistently getting it wrong. i've seen more half-raise rules than full-raise

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Full raise in NL, half in LE.

Too bad many floors these days have no NL knowledge to apply the rules correctly.

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in my experience this is house dependent; unless the floor is just consistently getting it wrong. i've seen more half-raise rules than full-raise

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QFT. It's not really a case of getting it wrong, it's a case of the house rule usually being "Half a raise constitutes a full bet and re-opens the betting to anyone who has acted"

[mrkilla]

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Half Raise tends to be an old rule that got dragged over from the limit games and is generally everywhere I played (Vegas, Canada, AC and Foxwoods)

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i guess I should clarify that by saying though I seen , it isn't what suppose to be and winds up being floor dependent

[Ramon Scott]

Professional rule.... full bet

Mickey Mouse rule.... half bet

Mickey Mouse rule is okay in Mickey Mouse room.

[RR]

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Full raise in NL, half in LE.

Too bad many floors these days have no NL knowledge to apply the rules correctly.

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in my experience this is house dependent; unless the floor is just consistently getting it wrong. i've seen more half-raise rules than full-raise

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QFT. It's not really a case of getting it wrong, it's a case of the house rule usually being "Half a raise constitutes a full bet and re-opens the betting to anyone who has acted"

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I know a number of rooms (it might be better now that NL is spread more) that would have the full bet rule in their rules but none of their floor staff was familiar with NL so they would do half bet. I am sure there are some, but I have never seen a set of written rules that had a half bet reopen action in NL.

[Percula]

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Full raise in NL, half in LE.

Too bad many floors these days have no NL knowledge to apply the rules correctly.

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in my experience this is house dependent; unless the floor is just consistently getting it wrong. i've seen more half-raise rules than full-raise

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QFT. It's not really a case of getting it wrong, it's a case of the house rule usually being "Half a raise constitutes a full bet and re-opens the betting to anyone who has acted"

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I know a number of rooms (it might be better now that NL is spread more) that would have the full bet rule in their rules but none of their floor staff was familiar with NL so they would do half bet. I am sure there are some, but I have never seen a set of written rules that had a half bet reopen action in NL.

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Come to AZ and see the MTT rules book for NL MTT... You will see it.