Give me a range to push here.

[BarryLyndon]

Gimme a push range considering:

1. At 80/160, Donk in UTG +1 (3780) just limp/called raise by MP (2020) who had 1300 after raise to 720. Then, on 10s 9d 8c board, check called AI with Kd10d and lost to KQo.

2. Blinds 100/200 in about a minute.

HAND: 80/160

Donk, MP2 (1940)
Hero, BB (1900)

Folds to donk who limps (pot: 400), folds to hero in BB with XX. What's my range for pushing?

[udbrky]

A9o+, A8s+, 44+, KJo+, KTs+

Anything less, I'd check and aim to get all-in with anything good on the flop.

[Ruy Lopez]

^^^
I'd shove decent Aces, Kings, and PPs, otherwise shove the flop if you hit.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

Any two looks fine if they are going to limp fold often.

What would they limp? Low pairs, SC and bad aces.... any pair over 8's donimate their limping pp, and two cards over T should have a good shot.

[cheburashka]

Without having looked at the other responses, and taking into consideration that I'm a nit and I suck (although my ROI is now very close to 0, so I'm getting better)

I'd assume he'll limp up to 40% of hands and that you have relatively little fold equity. So I'd want a hand that has decent equity against that range. KTo seems to be the lowest hand that beats a 40% range, so I'd shove with 77+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QJo.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

I'm re-reading this now... is there one limper or two? I'm more obliged to push over two by the way for the extra dead money.

[MJBuddy]

67s+, 78+, T8+, ATBroadway, All PP. K8+, Any ace.


Something like that. Yeah.

[BarryLyndon]

Only one limper. I think the key to this question is what percent of hands that he limps with does he call. I'm thinking like about 70%ish.

Barry

[Sherman]

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Only one limper. I think the key to this question is what percent of hands that he limps with does he call. I'm thinking like about 70%ish.

Barry

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There are two key considerations:
1) What % of hands does he open limp from MP with?
2) What % of those hands call if we shove?

From there, we need to a bunch of simulations using a bunch of shoving ranges. We want to maximize FE and our equity against his calling range to make the most $. It would take some time to figure out mathematically, but it is not too difficult to do.

Edit: To add that shoving ATC is probably profitable here. The question is what range is most profitable.

[black666]

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67s+, 78+, T8+, ATBroadway, All PP. K8+, Any ace.

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That shoving range is too wide against a calling station in my oppinion.