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Old 09-18-2007, 04:19 PM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

Game just broke, so its not like we have alot of hu history
hes a 17/13 called a flop c/raise shove of mine earlier, when i cc AA vs his button open came 3 spades i had A of spades he called w QQ no spade. Do you value raise the river, or do you shove, if you do raise and get shoved on what do you do. Does being 160bb deep matter much? Whats your line, and what do you think of the passive play up to the river, ok?


BB: $336.35
Hero (SB): $323.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Flop: ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($32) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $18.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00

River: ($68) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $70.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero ????
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

If you raise you shouldn't be folding to a shove, I think I just call the river bet though tbh.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:33 PM
ofishstix ofishstix is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

call and expect to lose a pretty decent portion of the time.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

Heads up, I like a flat call here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

based on his river overbet I just call.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

Minraise/Fold
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

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Minraise/Fold

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You put in over half your stack and still expect to fold to a shove? IMO, this is the worst possible line to take on the river.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 nl HU I hit flush on board pair

Experimental thinking here, and no its not the worst line, folding would be the worst.

FWIW If this was 100BB I'd def shove.

And yes you can raise/fold even given those odds if you're disciplined.

Aight well, his bet is not an overbet but its very likely to be for value, QQ is obviously the most likely boat, AQ is also possible, the rest of his range consists of high trips with a small possibility of something like KhJh. He'd value bet any strong ace here 100% of the time and call a minraise prob close 100% unless he's extremely disciplined. Our history shows that he doesnt need the goods to get it in, the fact that he minraised PF makes me think he sucks also.
I expect him to b3b with just trips so rarely that we can neglect it and I expect him to B/C with it often enough to make it worthwhile. If you can't fold once you raise or if you don't want to face the higher variance of such a play then just call.
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