FPP's are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!

[Greg Olden]

Ok I can no longer be silent on this issue. The FPP's you accumulate at Poker Stars are based on raked hands at the table. Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

Why do people on here constantly compare the two and say one is equvilent to the other.

I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

FPP'S ARE NOT THE SAME AS RAKEBACK! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[APerfect10]

Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

[sup_bro]

it is the same if u calculate it appropriately with the VALUE of the merchandise (or cash reward) u are getting....i am no math wiz but people have done the calculations....while it is TECHNICALLY not the same as rakeback, the equation puts it into a format that u can then compare apples to apples and see which has greater value....in other words as a supernova i get i think 32% of what would be rakeback on FT.....

[darkcore]

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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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[Greg Olden]

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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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NO, you are wrong,
I have played many sites and have calculated this, and have had numerous e-mails from suppport,
so you can eat a $#*! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[darkcore]

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Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7510298


What is MGR?: MGR stands for Monthly Gross Revenue. Gross Revenue" is calculated as the sum total of all Players' contribution to the rake less any bonuses or other promotional amounts given to Players, processing charges, charge backs, or any un-collectable revenue attributable to the Player. The higher your MGR the more money you will earn from rakeback. If your MGR is $1000 and your rakeback percent is 25% your rakeback would be $250.


How is MGR calculated: Different poker sites will figure your MGR in different ways. There are 3 different ways this is figured.


The first is called the dealt method. As long as you are dealt cards you will earn MGR on the hand (as long as the pot is raked). For example, if you are playing with 10 players at the table and all of them are dealt in and the pot is raked $1.50, you will earn 10/1.50 or 15 cents for this hand. Once again, you only have to be dealt in to earn MGR on the hand; you do not have to actually contribute to the pot. The formula for this is: ($ amount raked) /(amount of players dealt in) = MGR


The second method is average contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but you also have to contribute to the pot in some way (even if you fold the small blind). An example of this would be, if 10 players are dealt in the hand, but only 6 contribute to the pot (including you) and the pot is raked $3.00, you will earn 6/$3.00 or 50 cents in MGR. The formula for this is similar to the above: (($ amount raked) / Amount of players contributed to the pot) = MGR


The third method is weighted contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but, once again, you will have to contribute to the pot in some way. The difference between this method and the “average contributed” method above is that your MGR is figured in direct proportion to the amount of money you put in the pot. For example, 10 people are dealt in the hand and 8 of them contribute to the pot (including you), but after you have contributed $20 to the pot total, you fold on fourth street (along with 5 other players), 1 person folds on the turn, and 2 people see the showdown. The final pot is $240 and is raked $3. Since you contributed $20 to the $240 pot, you will earn $20 / $240 or 8.33% of the $3 rake, which is 24.99 cents. The formula is: (amount contributed to the pot / $ amount of pot ) * ($ amount raked) = MGR

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I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

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[jafeather]

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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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NO, you are wrong,
I have played many sites and have calculated this, and have had numerous e-mails from suppport,
so you can eat a $#*! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Could you please back this up by showing your math including the source of the numbers you are using in your math. Also please post these support e-mails.

Actually...please don't. This thread is stupid, and I am a lesser person for having wasted any time with it.

[Greg Olden]

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Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7510298


What is MGR?: MGR stands for Monthly Gross Revenue. Gross Revenue" is calculated as the sum total of all Players' contribution to the rake less any bonuses or other promotional amounts given to Players, processing charges, charge backs, or any un-collectable revenue attributable to the Player. The higher your MGR the more money you will earn from rakeback. If your MGR is $1000 and your rakeback percent is 25% your rakeback would be $250.


How is MGR calculated: Different poker sites will figure your MGR in different ways. There are 3 different ways this is figured.


The first is called the dealt method. As long as you are dealt cards you will earn MGR on the hand (as long as the pot is raked). For example, if you are playing with 10 players at the table and all of them are dealt in and the pot is raked $1.50, you will earn 10/1.50 or 15 cents for this hand. Once again, you only have to be dealt in to earn MGR on the hand; you do not have to actually contribute to the pot. The formula for this is: ($ amount raked) /(amount of players dealt in) = MGR


The second method is average contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but you also have to contribute to the pot in some way (even if you fold the small blind). An example of this would be, if 10 players are dealt in the hand, but only 6 contribute to the pot (including you) and the pot is raked $3.00, you will earn 6/$3.00 or 50 cents in MGR. The formula for this is similar to the above: (($ amount raked) / Amount of players contributed to the pot) = MGR


The third method is weighted contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but, once again, you will have to contribute to the pot in some way. The difference between this method and the “average contributed” method above is that your MGR is figured in direct proportion to the amount of money you put in the pot. For example, 10 people are dealt in the hand and 8 of them contribute to the pot (including you), but after you have contributed $20 to the pot total, you fold on fourth street (along with 5 other players), 1 person folds on the turn, and 2 people see the showdown. The final pot is $240 and is raked $3. Since you contributed $20 to the $240 pot, you will earn $20 / $240 or 8.33% of the $3 rake, which is 24.99 cents. The formula is: (amount contributed to the pot / $ amount of pot ) * ($ amount raked) = MGR

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I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

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[/ QUOTE ]you still are not making a strong point. We are both right, just leave it at that , I started this thread by the way , so let me run it how I feel fit, Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[APerfect10]

Um, you could never win a hand and still get your rakeback because IT IS based on MGR.

You are right though, its your thread so its your right to distribute false information. Ok...

[Thremp]

Jesus. Ban?