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Old 02-24-2006, 05:28 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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10-25 Blinds. 3500 stacks. You have KK and raise under the gun to 100. Tight, good player makes it 500 to your left. You assume there is a ten percent chance he has a goofy hand. Otherwise you assume he will always make this play with AKs, AA, KK, QQ, and half the time with JJ.

If you reraise big he will almost always fold queens and jacks and the goofy hand. The other hands he will usually move in with and sometimes flat call. 80-20 move in.

If you reraise small, he will at least call with everything, reraise big about half the time with with aces, about 20% of the time with the Aks and about 10% of the time with the other hands.

If you just call his raise he will put you on a very likely big hand.

How should you play your hand?
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Old 02-24-2006, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

seems like a reraise small part, but not sure exactly what you define a small reraise to be min rr is to make it 900. so I geuss that's what the raise is? This will also assume he will lose a bunch more too with hands ilke QQ or JJ on rag flop if he doesn't put you on the big hands postflop.

edit: oops misread one part
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Old 02-24-2006, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

Reraise big seems like the best
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Old 02-24-2006, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

Without doing any deep analyzation or math, reraise small feels right. I am sure that makes it wrong.

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Old 02-24-2006, 06:09 AM
Shaun Shaun is offline
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

Re-raise to 1300 at least. Fold to a push. If you're in position play it differently.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

Occurring to my dodgy maths.

Raise smallish say 700 more, and call the reraise.

You’re a solid favorate against his range, and as he will always call a small raise, and wont be fooled by a call, it can’t be right to just call.

Going all in is –EV if he only calls with aces and kings.

Any raise seems to pot commits you providing he will call your raise with aces half the time, and sometimes reraise with other hands. (It would not necessarily be right to call if he always reraised with aces, or reraised with other hands less than stated. – so pretty close.)

Hence you want to make as big a raise as he will call with all his hands as long as he is not getting the right price. You also want to make the pot as large as possible, so that if he reraises the decision to call is easier. If you had decided it was right to fold to a reraise, you might consider raising less sat 500 to make the decision to fold easier.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:04 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

easy fold.

edited: If he is going to put us on a very big hand, then I calling is fine -- but again, for him to do this, then we would have to actually also be calling with AA a majority of the time. Do you see why all these theoretical questions are so goofy? You assign a bunch of rules that all dont fit together.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:05 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

PS: All your If's dont make sense together.

"He is calling all small reraises?" Why would he do that?

Why would he push AK so often? That is horrible.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:12 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

sklansky,

these are all math questions once you assign all the probabilites and tell us exactly how our opponents will act with which cards.

when stacks get deep against a very good player, you dont want to be calling/reraising with KK when your opponent is only full of it 10% of the time.
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Old 02-24-2006, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Meat And Potatoes Real Life Good Question

I'd reraise small since you'd said he'd do all of those things if you did, which at the very least was calling... Even if he re-raised I'd call since its likely he'll do with other hands besides AA...
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