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Old 01-04-2006, 10:36 PM
Bazuul Bazuul is offline
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Default ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1195)
Hero (t940)
MP1 (t1195)
MP2 (t1680)
MP3 (t930)
CO (t225)
Button (t960)
SB (t1930)
BB (t945)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises t120</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t285) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t250</font>, Hero ????

What is Hero's play, and what is UTG's range?
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

It really depends on the villan
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

Gah, sorry, forgot to post my read. Villain is loose and aggressive, but not super loose or super aggressive. Say VPIP of &lt;30%, PFR of &gt;15%.
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

fold...
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

I can certainly understand why you smell something fishy but I think things are unclear enough in this hand to make folding the prudent move. I just don't see any way to figure out where you're at without pushing and then once you know where you're at you've either won the hand or are staring at 99 with two to come.

Also, I wouldn't take this bet as total weakness. It's a pot-sized bet, which a lot of people are big fans of as a standard bet.
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

I think by cold calling this, you really butchered it. If he is truly a 30/15 I shove here as you his range definatly includes KJ, AJ and AQ.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

If the villain was making out-of-line raises, then shoving before the flop is also a good play. Given the way this hand developed (and that the villain raised UTG), I give him credit (barely) and fold here.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

Since villian is laggy he could easily be contiuation betting ak aq maybe aj kq kj a10 if he has an overpair below kk your pretty much racing and a set doesnt seem likely because i doubt he'd raise 22 44 or 55 utg. Unless he has aa or kk your either racing or getting him to fold and considering theres 500 dead in the middle I think it's a good repush.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

Villian won't fold any pocket pair to your push.

Fold.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: ($55) EP -- Are large bets a sign of weakness or strength?

What could villain be holding that would be threatened by that flop? If there was a flush draw or even a straight draw and he made a pot sized bet, it's easy to believe that he's defending his hand. However when it's just him and me and no open draws, what would he make this bet with and why?
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