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Old 07-02-2007, 09:11 PM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on flop

I'm the chip leader by a pretty nice margin with 40 or so remaining in PS $10 180 pp tourney (pays 18)...Villan seems pretty loose (few hands ago he played 2 4 suited from EMP in a raised pot and got it all in on flop with middle pair and flush draw (he beat 99 by catching flush on turn)

How is my play here? Is 4X too little pre with position vs a loose player? Do I instacall the push here?

PokerStars Game #10729851400: Tournament #54364342, $10+$1 Hold'em No
Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/07/02 - 12:50:28 (ET)
Table '54364342 20' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: --- (3185 in chips)
Seat 2: --- (8403 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (24272 in chips)
Seat 5: --- (4425 in chips)
Seat 6: --- (7847 in chips)
Seat 7: villan (17512 in chips)
Seat 8: --- (8204 in chips)
Seat 9: --- (7555 in chips)

All post $25 ante
---: posts small blind 200
---: posts big blind 400

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero on button [Kh Kd]
villan: calls 400
4 folds
hero: raises 1200 to 1600
2 folds
villan: calls 1200


POT: $4,025

*** FLOP *** [9c 9s 6c]
villan: checks
hero: bets 4800
villan: raises 11087 to 15887 and is all-in
hero: ?? 11087 more to call
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:55 PM
nervous cop nervous cop is offline
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

You're ahead of his range, no? I say call, especially w/ the odds you're getting at this point.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

fold, you over bet the and he shoved anyway... 20BB, left. Just fold.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:32 PM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

tomek...even with the previous hand where he pushed on a draw?
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

Insta-call. This looks totally standard to me. The overbet looks like a bluff to some people and they might come over the top.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:06 AM
LSgambler LSgambler is offline
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

I cant image folding this to a loose/donk in 180 men donkament.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:38 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on flop

PF is okay. Super easy insta-call his push
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

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tomek...even with the previous hand where he pushed on a draw?

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Sry when I read this last night, I read it as AK. I call but I don't exactly like it.

1st hand, he pushed on a draw and pair, aggressive gets most hands to lay down. He's basically a coinflip with anything but a set or a better flushdraw. Don't think this instantly makes him a loose donkey, not saying he's not a donkey, just that one hand isn't enough evidence for me.

Not one person has put this guy on a hand. Everyone is like "oooh overpair instacall." what are we expecting to see? A naked 6 everytime,lol. I think this is a flushdraw with an over, or FD with gutshot most of the time, worse PP some of the time, and the 9 some of the time. Don't ask percentages, I suck at math.

Cliffnotes: misread hand as AK, I call with KK, but I think we are flipping a coin.
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

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Not one person has put this guy on a hand. Everyone is like "oooh overpair instacall" which is absolutely correct given stacksot ratio when the flop was dealt

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Old 07-03-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: KK late $10 180...as chip leader facing loose big stack push on

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which is absolutely correct given stacksot ratio when the flop was dealt

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I'm relatively new to this, can you please explain your reasoning? there is 4k in the pot when the flop is dealt, we are playing for another 12k and thus pot commited vs another big stack no matter what hits? Seems absolutely retarded to me.

Edit: On a side note, why are we overbetting the flop? Anyone think about checking this flop?
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