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Old 05-28-2007, 01:08 AM
Meraxes Meraxes is offline
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Default Someone berate me for not value betting this river

Live 3/6 8-handed
Villian 1 is a lagtard in the SB. Villian 2 is super loose, pretty passive UTG.

Hero is on the button with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: 2 limpers including UTG, Hero raises, Blinds and limpers call.

Flop: (9 SB) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, everyone calls.

Turn: (7.5 BB) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (3 Players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG calls.

River: (12.5 BB) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]][9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] (2 Players)
UTG check, Hero checks!?

Someone tell me that's awful so I don't do it again. Comments on other steets welcome also.
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

ummm...why didn't you bet on the river?
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

I'd still value bet this river. If you get C/R then I wouldn't 3-bet and would just call.

I also don't mind the check since UTG has cold-called all the way and you said he was fairly passive which could indicate he does have something > 88
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Old 05-28-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

lol terrible

What are you giving UTG? The case jack? Td 9d?

UTG limped, he has a pocket 8s beat PF like zero percent of the time, and there's no way 99 isn't going more bets on the turn.

The reason for betting is because he's passive. In my opinion even if he had T9 I don't think he's going to raise you on the river with anything BUT quads after you raised once, twice, three times.

Bet the river.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

Thanks everyone. I hope that does the trick.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

Wait! I needed to say...

BERAAATE!!!

Hahah.
Bet the river.
Bet the hell out of it.
Doesn't seem like he would check the jack. He would check/call a straight I'm sure...
I'm giving him A7...
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

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Live 3/6 8-handed
hero is a lagtard on the button

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This hand is horrible on all streets. Your way to agressive vs your opponent's hand ranges
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

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Live 3/6 8-handed
hero is a lagtard on the button

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This hand is horrible on all streets. Your way to agressive vs your opponent's hand ranges

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What's your recommended line? c/c down?
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:17 PM
Cactus Jack Cactus Jack is offline
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

boot to the head

You gotta stop holding back.
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Someone berate me for not value betting this river

I think on this hand I am out by the turn. I'm wondering if it is even wise to continue on after the flop?
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