correct calldown?

rzk · #1 05-08-2007, 04:14 AM

BB is 50/8/0.9, CO is 38/23/1.9

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12SB, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (14BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 17BB

Oink · #2 05-08-2007, 04:36 AM

Looks good to me. I wouldnt worry about CO. You have him beat always.

chesterfieldking · #3 05-08-2007, 04:47 AM

Cap preflop, looks fine other than that.

mvoss · #4 05-08-2007, 05:13 AM

I cap preflop, you have an equity edge and folding out BB would be nice too (not that it happens a lot though). I think you played postflop fíne.

rzk · #5 05-08-2007, 06:13 AM

i'm still a little unsure when to cap pf in the blinds and when not to. it seems some authors suggest not capping (or even 3-betting) with AK, JJ, QQ etc. claiming the created deception, the ability to get away from bad flops cheaply and to check-raise the field to get more money in the pot and force opponents to make fund.theorem of poker mistakes if a good flop comes makes up for the loss of equity pf. thoughts on this?

Oink · #6 05-08-2007, 06:27 AM

I missed the preflop action. Its an easy cap IMO.

- Your eq edge is huge. Take advantage while you can in a multiway pot

- Calling gives BB odds and incentive to call with a variety of hands. Cap to shut him out

- Capping may fold out CO. Even tho it happens rarely, its is huge if you can get it HU vs Button.

- I wouldnt worry about deception at low limits. The value you earn from that is definetely less than the value of either shutting out BB and possibly CO or the value of making it 4 bets multiway with a strong hand.

mvoss · #7 05-08-2007, 07:16 AM

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i'm still a little unsure when to cap pf in the blinds and when not to. it seems some authors suggest not capping (or even 3-betting) with AK, JJ, QQ etc. claiming the created deception, the ability to get away from bad flops cheaply and to check-raise the field to get more money in the pot and force opponents to make fund.theorem of poker mistakes if a good flop comes makes up for the loss of equity pf. thoughts on this?

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I think that you can play those hands deceptively and get away on bad flops when you play in small pots HU. When playing big pots you just play straightforward.

Kvacke · #8 05-08-2007, 08:13 AM

Preflopp: Should Cap, Equity should be good, and shutting out bb.
flop: I do know that if the gap between the VPIP and PFR is big they are a bit more aggro than what the aggfactor indicates (right?). But doesnt bb looks passive? What does this guy really bet out with on this flop except a ten or 66? He is loose so he can have lots of stuff maybe he bets a six or a pocketpair, but once he threebets I cant really see him having anything you have more than two outs against. I would call the last bet trying to spike my jack on the turn.
Turn: I just fold the turn. If those stats is over some reliable sample I just cant see BB having anything else than trip tens almost all the time and I dont have outs to chase that.

yourface · #9 05-08-2007, 09:28 AM

BB's flop lead is pretty scary here. after he 3bets I think we're toast but the pot is huge.

rzk · #10 05-08-2007, 11:09 AM

yes i also put bb on a monster, but the pot was huge. btw, bb had KK, co had T8.