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Old 05-07-2007, 05:25 AM
Bonk Bonk is offline
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Default LAG PF aces strategy

Live game. My image is loose, maniac and tricky. Stacks around 100BB deep (It’s local currency so I’ll keep it in BB)

A key related hand: UTG, which has raised 4 pots in a row, makes it 3BB to go, gets 4 callers, I re-pop to 10BB with air on the SB and triple-barrel heads-up until a straight draw gets there. It was obvious by the way I played the river I had air.

Now the hand in question: UTG opens for 5BB, MP calls and I raise to 10BB with aces. Button calls and both UTG and MP call. 4 to the flop. Flop comes 578, two spades, UTG leads mere 15BB, MP calls and I correctly fold as I was up against a set and SFD.

Regardless of results, my question is what is the best strategy PF. I have UTG pigeonholed on SPP and MP on either SPP or suited connector.

Also, in general: You have an image of maniac and it’s been raised to you PF. You have a huge hand. Do you want to eliminate the number of opponents, build the pot or disguise the hand altogether? What are good percentages for each of the three options and what do you consider the best LAG strategy?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: LAG PF aces strategy

uhh make a pot sized raise
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:48 AM
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A key related hand: UTG, which has raised 4 pots in a row, makes it 3BB to go, gets 4 callers, I re-pop to 10BB with air on the SB and triple-barrel heads-up until a straight draw gets there. It was obvious by the way I played the river I had air.

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did you get called on the river?

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Regardless of results, my question is what is the best strategy PF.

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Make it 20-25 BB's preflop, not just 10. If you think you don't get enough action, keep adding hands to your preflop reraising range, KK,AK,QQ,JJ,AQ,TT,AJ,KQ etc. etc.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: LAG PF aces strategy

You seem like an easy LAG to outplay. With your miniraises I would never be afraid to play a hand with you because it will be on my premises. When I want the pot to be big, it will be.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:06 AM
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A key related hand: UTG, which has raised 4 pots in a row, makes it 3BB to go, gets 4 callers, I re-pop to 10BB with air on the SB and triple-barrel heads-up until a straight draw gets there. It was obvious by the way I played the river I had air.

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did you get called on the river?


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I was OOP, bet, got mini-raised by a passive player, and threw my cards into the muck without no hesistation. If I had any reasonable holding I would have to call. Since I didn't - they correctly put me on air.

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Regardless of results, my question is what is the best strategy PF.

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Make it 20-25 BB's preflop, not just 10.



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I have mixed emotions with raising around 20. First of all - it shuts down thinking opponents with SPPs due to stack sizes. Suppose there's around 12BB in the pot and I make it 20 more I'm only get called by say tens or better (unless my opponents know I'm capable to put 20BB with nothing). In that particular hand I would have won the money in the pot, that is around 12BB. However – if one makes it 10-15BB he'll usually be called by the SPPs, thus the pot is 40BB with 2 SPPs and another good hand (button) and around 60% equity going to the flop so that's value of 24BB~.

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If you think you don't get enough action, keep adding hands to your preflop reraising range, KK,AK,QQ,JJ,AQ,TT,AJ,KQ etc. etc.



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Seems logical. However - when one is 100BB~ deep – is this still profitable?

Appreciate your comments.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: LAG PF aces strategy

what is everybodys obsession with being loose preflop? its like 99% of the people doing it are doing it just because they wanna be known as laggy, not cause of profit at all.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:03 AM
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If you think you don't get enough action, keep adding hands to your preflop reraising range, KK,AK,QQ,JJ,AQ,TT,AJ,KQ etc. etc.



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Seems logical. However - when one is 100BB~ deep – is this still profitable?

Appreciate your comments.

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I believe it's very profitable. I'm 3betting the pants off people all the time (I rule). It might take a little getting used to playing postflop with less than 2 pots sized bets left in your effective stack, but I think it's worth it
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: LAG PF aces strategy

raise pot size
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:03 AM
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what is everybodys obsession with being loose preflop? its like 99% of the people doing it are doing it just because they wanna be known as laggy, not cause of profit at all.

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laggy is the new sunglasses at the poker table [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:51 AM
gooseisloose08 gooseisloose08 is offline
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Default Re: LAG PF aces strategy

Your playing LAG for a reason, so that when you pick up hands like aces you can stack someone who thinks your weak. Min raising this is terrible, you know both are going to call and the only way you want to see a 3way flop with aces is if your AIPF. I raise this to 20bb.
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