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Old 04-27-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Nothing ... adds ... up

Villain is 17/12 TAGnit. Flop check is far from standard but I figured he would bet a lot of hands when checked to but fold to a flop bet a lot. Anyways, thoughts on the river? I couldn't put him on a hand that checks the turn and raises the biggest blank ever on the river.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($105.90)
Button ($213.75)
SB ($99)
BB ($96.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($100)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($143.10)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($21.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($21.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $25.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:28 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

were you planning on c/c or c/r the turn?

as played i think folding to the river raise isn't bad considering you are splitting or losing here nearly always against this sort of player
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

Nits kinda play some hands strange. I call out of confusion...
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

I think the river is either check-call or bet-fold, but not bet-call. If he puts you on an A, he can check the turn to induce a bet from you with T7 and QT. Not much to worry about with these hands. Somehow it seems that he can read you. I would be a little bit worried about that fact.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

I was planning on check-calling the turn.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

I think this is a fold too. You don't see many nits raising rivers with air and the way the hand played out, you'll most likely only have him beat here when he has air because alot of worse hands might have some showdown value the way you played it.

My first guess would be AJ that he just played wierd, but I honestly have no clue, gonna be interested to see what he turned over.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:35 PM
74o_Clownsuit 74o_Clownsuit is offline
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

Meh, with a little more history information I would love the river call more. You said he's a nit so I doubt he's bluffing on the river often enough for a call to be profitable in a vacuum. I can't make sense of his turn check/river raise either, but sometimes players love to get "creative".

Also, if he's pretty good at reading hands I would love your river call a LOT because your line looks pretty weak . Although, this is a standard "slowplay my insane hand oop until river then I donk" from bad players. Not saying that you are one, but what is your image to this guy?
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

Looks like AJ,JJ,910 or you win. 910 seems somewhat unlikely considering your read of him being nitish, AJ is possible, JJ seems most likely if you are beat IMO.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Nothing ... adds ... up

Villain probably has 22 like 90% of the time here. 10% of the time maybe a bluff?
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:51 PM
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WHats your image?

His line is very strange, it doesn't achieve maximum EV on anything i can think you may hold.

Why does he raise river if he puts you on JT/67(missed draw?).
Why does he bet the flop if he has AJ/AQ and puts you KK/QQ? No sense.
Why does he check the turn behind if he puts you on a draw?
Why raise river if he thinks he's sucessfully induced some kind of bluff?


I can only assume he cold called pre with 22-JJ/AQ/AJs and bet the flop to protect(PP's). Hits a set, checks behind and raises river to try get more cash.

Looks like JJ to me???

Since im so unsure, all i can say is your beat alot here.
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