20k foot view of school shooting

[PLOlover]

Everywhere in virginia, people are allowed to carry firearms for self/other protection. Everywehere except this state university and maybe some other schools and such.

The shooters obviously chose a gun free zone to do their work.

Inference: think twice before enterering a "gun free zone". The only people who have guns in these zones are
a) criminals who will kill you
b) police who will run away and cower in fear while a) happens.

Also realize that there are many incidents in the US where things like this start, but before too much damage happens the crazy gunman is stopped by armed citizens.

Also note that if there is a real terrorist incident like europe had with the red brigade and stuff, it is precisely these gun free locations that will be chosen by 20-30 well armed suicidal politically motivated terrorists.

Conclsuion: Vote with your feet, stay out of the danger zone.

[jman220]

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Everywhere in virginia, people are allowed to carry firearms for self/other protection. Everywehere except this state university and maybe some other schools and such.

The shooters obviously chose a gun free zone to do their work.

Inference: think twice before enterering a "gun free zone". The only people who have guns in these zones are
a) criminals who will kill you
b) police who will run away and cower in fear while a) happens.

Also realize that there are many incidents in the US where things like this start, but before too much damage happens the crazy gunman is stopped by armed citizens.

Also note that if there is a real terrorist incident like europe had with the red brigade and stuff, it is precisely these gun free locations that will be chosen by 20-30 well armed suicidal politically motivated terrorists.

Conclsuion: Vote with your feet, stay out of the danger zone.

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I lived in Virginia for three years. The vast majority of Virginians are not walking around carrying guns! In my three years, I never met a non law enforcement person who carried a concealed weapon. This could have happenned anywhere.

Edit: And, just for the record, I have a pistol permit.

[Borodog]

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In my three years, I never met a non law enforcement person who carried a concealed weapon.

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That you know of.

I remember the night when three of the people at my home game discovered that the other five of us were all packing heat. It was pretty funny.

[mmbt0ne]

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Also realize that there are many incidents in the US where things like this start, but before too much damage happens the crazy gunman is stopped by armed citizens.

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I would really like to see a "lives saved" vs. "lives lost" statistic on this.

[ConstantineX]

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In my three years, I never met a non law enforcement person who carried a concealed weapon.

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That you know of.

I remember the night when three of the people at my home game discovered that the other five of us were all packing heat. It was pretty funny.

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LOL. Elaborate?

[BCPVP]

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Also realize that there are many incidents in the US where things like this start, but before too much damage happens the crazy gunman is stopped by armed citizens.

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I would really like to see a "lives saved" vs. "lives lost" statistic on this.

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The numbers vary, but I've seen from 500,000 to about 2 million defensive gun uses per year. That's many times more than the number of people who are murdered by guns.
A start

[mmbt0ne]

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[XXXNoahXXX]

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The shooters obviously chose a gun free zone to do their work.

Inference: think twice before enterering a "gun free zone". The only people who have guns in these zones are
a) criminals who will kill you
b) police who will run away and cower in fear while a) happens.


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1) He didn't "choose a gun free zone". He chose to do it in his environment, and attack the people that wronged him or however he viwed it.


Sure, perhaps if some students had guns, one of them could have taken this kid out and saved lives.

But how many single death shootings would we have on college campuses?

Do you really want a bunch of college students that are immature and drunk 5 days a week to have a 9mm next to their beer bong and Periodic Table of Sex Positions?

[PLOlover]

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I would really like to see a "lives saved" vs. "lives lost" statistic on this.


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heck the last time there was a uni shooting in virginia I think it was, a student or a couple of students stopped it. as soon as the "crazed" gunman was confronted by a nonvictim with a gun he gave up.

[Borodog]

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In my three years, I never met a non law enforcement person who carried a concealed weapon.

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That you know of.

I remember the night when three of the people at my home game discovered that the other five of us were all packing heat. It was pretty funny.

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LOL. Elaborate?

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There were 8 of us, and I was open carrying on my hip. Everyone that comes to my game knew that I had a gun on me at all times, explicitly for advertising purposes. We always had not-insignificant amounts of cash at the game (several thousand dollars), and I wanted anyone who had the idea of hitting my game to pick another.

Anyway, a new guy was sort of shocked to see the gun, and asked if he could look at it more closely. I said yes, removed the magazine and ejected the round in the chamber, locked the slide back and handed it to him (butt first, of course). Next thing you know, there's 4 more guns stripped and on the table, and all the gun nuts are passing them back and forth oohing and ahing. My friend Jerry's eyes practically popped out of his head and he almost spit milk out of his nose, even though he hasn't drank milk in 2 decades.

If I remember correctly, there was a 9mm Baretta, a .38 Chief's Special, some sort of Smith & Wesson snub-nose revolver, and some other thing I can't recall.