Cap the turn with AA ?

[rafiki]

decent 10 handed 10-20 game, and I've got 0 reads as I'm newish to the game. I look down at AA in UTG+2.

UTG limps, I raise, MP calls, MP+1 raises, all fold (including blinds), UTG calls, I cap, remaining guys call.

4 people capped to the flop:

2 9 6 rainbow, I cheer.

checked to me, I bet, MP calls, MP+1 raises, UTG calls, I reraise, MP calls, MP+1 reraises again, UTG calls, I cap, all call.

At this point I'm a lot less concerned with MP+1, and a lot more curious about what the hell the 2 other dudes have.

turn:

3 (putting 2 clubs out)

Before I post results from other streets, is this pretty standard for you ? Do you keep showing aggression until one of the other 2 guys shows you something ? That MP+1 guy seems ready to keep firing with his QQ-KK. He seems ready to cap every street without concern about the other 2 guys. I can't help but get the feeling that he's going to cost me a lot of money to get to showdown, assuming I'm even beat.

[rafiki]

I'll add something I forgot to mention, since it makes the turn action more complete.

UTG bets, you...

[AragornX151]

Just because these dudes may not be good players (which most 10-20 donks aren't) doesn't mean they can't pick up a hand. This is a LOT of strength being shown, and IMO you're behind most of the time here. If you were heads up on MP+1 with your read, I'd have no problem putting in 3 bets on the turn. But you must respect the other two players.

Having said this, I'd call the turn bet. If the MP player raises his KK/QQ, fine. If the UTG player then 3-bets, I think you have to fold. What are you really beating here against typical 10-20 fishies? If the UTG just calls, you call too.

[cgrohman]

Usually when you raise and someone else calls, an average player needs a minimum of 10,10 or AK to 3-ball you preflop.

[cgrohman]

I agree.

[benwood]

You have played it perfectly so far.Now you just need to raise this turn.

[jba]

you are so beat on this turn. this guy has at least two pair, probably a straight though. I would never raise this unless he's super bad and or spewy/random bad bluffy.

[AragornX151]

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You have played it perfectly so far.Now you just need to raise this turn.

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And then gleefully call a 3-bet and potential cap? No thanks.

[rafiki]

I wouldn't mind hearing some more discussion about raise vs call. The way the hand has played so far, I think we all agree fold is impossible at this point (before the rest of the turn has played out)

What hand range does UTG have ? Why wouldn't he try and cr the turn instead ? Is he betting out knowing that MP+1 will do the raising for him ?

I'll post turn results after some more discussion, because the hand certainly gets more interesting as this goes along.

[AragornX151]

UTG can have a wide range. If he's at all thinking, it's a great play to lead with a set. He slowplayed it on the flop while everyone else did the raising, and since everyone else is showing lots of strength, it's reasonable to assume that someone will raise, allowing him to 3-bet. If he just sucks, he might have TT or A9. Other option I see is 78c...